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Hey guys reading a few old posts .... so have a few questions ..

1. What is budgie starter? and what is it used for ??

 

2. Breeding Aid? Now 1 what is it and 2 is this used to help boost them into breeding conditions????

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Not sure but I have heard of the breeding aid. My opinion is that all you need to help your birds breed is a compatable pair that are in condition, Fresh water and food, Calcium and of course a nest box. I have seen the budgie starter at our meetings for sale, never have bothered to look at it, might make o point of doing so next time.

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Sorry neat, I'm having difficulty keeping up I'm still researching NSW POM X6 or whatever that ring number was... all these questions... :hap:

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Not sure but I have heard of the breeding aid. My opinion is that all you need to help your birds breed is a compatable pair that are in condition, Fresh water and food, Calcium and of course a nest box. I have seen the budgie starter at our meetings for sale, never have bothered to look at it, might make o point of doing so next time.
Yeah just wondering if it would help with anything .... Gotta give my birds the best .....
Sorry neat, I'm having difficulty keeping up I'm still researching NSW POM X6 or whatever that ring number was... all these questions... :hap:
(Laughing out loud) Jimmy well if you have no answers on the ring YOUR NOT DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB (Laughing out loud) ... I am a very curious person ... YES i know it killed the cat (Laughing out loud) ....

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:hap: All will be revealed in the fulness of time... I will let you know when you need to know :wub:

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Hey guys reading a few old posts .... so have a few questions ..

1. What is budgie starter? and what is it used for ??

 

2. Breeding Aid? Now 1 what is it and 2 is this used to help boost them into breeding conditions????

 

Depending on the brand (some differ) Budgie starter is a supplement for young fledglings.

 

Again depending on the brand. Breeding aid is for birds with young to assist with feeding.

Boosting them into breeding condition ??? Only a complete diet can help with that and even then it's up to the birds. I have hens that were out of condition 6 months ago when I got them. Still look the same today. Despite a extensive diet and every supplement under the sun!!

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There isn't different brands. Only the one.

 

Budgie Starter is from wombaroo and is used by most of the top breeders. The past President of ANBC MR Nigel Tonkin uses it.

 

Breeding Aid is from Vetafarm and for the increase in Vitamins and minerals required for egg development.

 

I use and recommend both very highly.

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Lets start a post... we'll call it Stump Daz.. and the aim will be to find a question he doesn't know the answer to. Of course it would have to be Budgie related...

 

Thanks for the info Daz :hap:

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There isn't different brands. Only the one.

 

Budgie Starter is from wombaroo and is used by most of the top breeders. The past President of ANBC MR Nigel Tonkin uses it.

 

Breeding Aid is from Vetafarm and for the increase in Vitamins and minerals required for egg development.

 

I use and recommend both very highly.

 

 

Obviously there not all called the same thing but they area similar products.

 

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Nothing out of a packet is ever much chop! you still have to add things to the mix.

So if ya going to go to that much trouble why not make your own!

One trip to the health food shop and I have enough to last the breeding season.

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Lets start a post... we'll call it Stump Daz.. and the aim will be to find a question he doesn't know the answer to. Of course it would have to be Budgie related...

 

Thanks for the info Daz :D

 

There is a lot I don't know. I believe that the day you think you know it all is the day you should quit. :D

 

 

There isn't different brands. Only the one.

 

Budgie Starter is from wombaroo and is used by most of the top breeders. The past President of ANBC MR Nigel Tonkin uses it.

 

Breeding Aid is from Vetafarm and for the increase in Vitamins and minerals required for egg development.

 

I use and recommend both very highly.

 

 

Obviously there not all called the same thing but they area similar products.

 

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Nothing out of a packet is ever much chop! you still have to add things to the mix.

So if ya going to go to that much trouble why not make your own!

One trip to the health food shop and I have enough to last the breeding season.

 

I wouldn't touch some egg & biscuit mixture with a 10 foot pole. I find it is mostly biscuit and not high enough in protein.

 

I like around the 20% to 25% protein levels for the birds.

 

I am trying a Finch and Budgie Crumble instead of the Passwall Crumble.

 

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Ingredients:

Manufactured from whole cereal grains including maize, wholegrain legumes, groats, amino acids, lysine and methionine, salt, vitamins A, D3, E, K, B12, thiamine, riboflavin, panthothenic acid, pyridoxine, folacin and biotin, minerals, calcium, phosphorus, cobalt, iodine, copper, iron, manganese, zinc and selenium and natural organic acids.

 

Guaranteed Analysis:

Min Crude Protein 19.0%

Min Crude Fat 7.0%

Max Crude Fibre 3.5%

Added Salt 0.1%

 

 

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Ground triticale, wheat, barley, maize and oats. Whey and soy proteins, meat meal, lysine, methionine, vegetable oils, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, vitamins A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C, D3, E, K, nicotinamide, pantothenic acid, folic acid, choline, inositol, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, magnesium, zinc, iron, manganese, copper, iodine, selenium.

 

Min Crude Protein 15%

Min Crude Fat 5%

Max Fibre 7%

Max Salt 1%

 

The Vetafarm is lower in Salt and Higher in Protein.

 

I add half to one of Budgie Starter.

 

 

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Ground cereals, bread crumbs, whey and soy proteins, hydrolysed casein, lysine, methionine, vegetable oils, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, vitamins A, B1, B2, B6, B12, C, D3, E, K, nicotinamide, pantothenic acid, folic acid, choline, inositol, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, sodium, magnesium, zinc, iron, manganese, copper, iodine, selenium.

 

Min Crude Protein 23%

Min Crude Fat 10%

Max Fibre 6%

Max Salt 1%

 

The birds are feed on this everyday from the egg to 3 months old.

All the breeding pairs are on this from the time they are paired up.

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You have to watch giving to much protein or you can blow there liver.

You need to take into account that they are also eating seed at around 15% plus another 20% soft food can get to much.

 

It usually takes 2 or 3 years when you join the hobby to work out the best feeding regime. Often a mistake chopping and changing because so and so uses something it must work so I'll use it. Fad feeding we used to call it.

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okay ....

Well ....

ummm.....

I am sorry if I have caused conflict which i am sure I haven't as this forum is about everyones different opnion and methods ..... So I will say thanks for both of your info on this

 

I have the egg and biccky stuffy and they don't seem to eat it Only their greens ....

I find it interesting that the breeding aid helps with egg numbers, sizes and hatchability .... T

HAT IS A WOW for me But Umm I don''t think i would want a too big an egg??? ......

 

But i want the best for my birds and any offsprings so why not give it ago ..... Thanks again guys

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Each is to there own,But Daz is pritty spot on,with his feeding,half the breeding is in the feeding. :D

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Daz my Budgie Starter isnt wombaroo ...its Passwells :D

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OMG could it be .... Really ... Daz is wrong .... *** must have frozen over .... Jimmy your wish has come true .... Or Daz was mis informed ..... Either way I will be starting mine on some ... Do i just do it or gradually introduce it to them .....

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Isn't there a few kinds of budgie starter? to me it looks basically like hand rearing food and seeds mixed in :rolleyes:

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okay ....

Well ....

ummm.....

I am sorry if I have caused conflict which i am sure I haven't as this forum is about everyones different opnion and methods ..... So I will say thanks for both of your info on this

 

I have the egg and biccky stuffy and they don't seem to eat it Only their greens ....

I find it interesting that the breeding aid helps with egg numbers, sizes and hatchability .... T

HAT IS A WOW for me But Umm I don''t think i would want a too big an egg??? ......

 

But i want the best for my birds and any offsprings so why not give it ago ..... Thanks again guys

 

No conflict Neat!

All the stuff on here is just peoples opinion that's all. You really have to find out what's best in your situation yourself.

The best advise for me has always come from the most unlikely source when I'm not really listening!

 

I remember some of the old breeders in the 80's that used to preach to me the craft of keeping lifestock. A lot of there words have always rung true through the years.

 

There gone now! Wish they were here with there" listen young fella!! see that bird there......."

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Thanks TB ..... i'll see what works best I was under the impression i was doing my best..... But i know found that i can do better : )

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Daz my Budgie Starter isnt wombaroo ...its Passwells ;)

 

 

Hi Kaz .. Same Company.

 

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Daz my Budgie Starter isnt wombaroo ...its Passwells :)

 

 

Hi Kaz .. Same Company.

 

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Huh !! :D :hap:

 

 

Thats new then as all my boxes just have passwells on them ;)

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It a mix Of Wombat and Roo meal!!

:D :(Laughing out loud): :D:huh:;)

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It a mix Of Wombat and Roo meal!!

:D :(Laughing out loud): :D:huh:;)

 

 

:huh::D :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap:

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Heehe you make me laugh :(Laughing out loud):

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Hiya Neat,

 

I also use Passwells Budgie starter and Breeding Aid. I mix vegies in with the Budgie starter and it goes into the breeding cabinets when they haved young to feed and in the toddler flight.

 

 

 

I am trying a Finch and Budgie Crumble instead of the Passwall Crumble.

 

I'd be interested to see how this goes for you, Daz. I was looking at it yesterday before I placed an order with vetafarm.

 

 

Feathers.

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Feathers, I was placed on it by Dave Ganzer who was the president of the ANBC back in 2005/2006. Dave has won three nationals. Last year came 1st and 3rd in the Dominant Pied section. He uses it every day as well.

 

I have been using it for two years now and won't be changing unless some thing better appears. :P

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