Missy 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Oh my goodness, i have a HUGE phobia of cockroaches, and l barely ever go out to see my birds after dusk as l like to let them sleep, but l went outside and noticed their feeders were both low, so l thought l'd fill them up while l remembered. As l was filling them up (both external to fill up) l noticed there was a cockroach on the bottom of the cage, under the wire at the bottom but on top of the newspaper. Then l noticed there was one more, and another, and another. There were a total of 6 cockroaches on the bottom of the cage. Naturally l freaked, called my boyfriend and he came out and got rid of them (took out the bottom section and threw it on the grass, no chemicals were used) Now, l don't know if this happens all the time, or only tonight. The only thing that was in the bottom was seed/husks and poop, which wouldn't be many because l cleaned the cage yesterday. Is this normal? Is it okay thats its happening? What are the cockroaches attracted to? Thanks, this is really bugging me - (no pun intended! :budgiedance: ) Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2008 There is something "dirty" around or in the cage that they are drawn too. It have to get rid of them because they can carry disease and can make your birds sick. I don't deal with them much where we live and I am sure others will come and and give you better advice then myself. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) A cockroaches favourite place to be in the seed mess in those trays. You need some sticky paper baits in there and that will catch them ....or the flat cockroach baits where the cockies go into them to eat. Edited March 23, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
birdluv 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 2,137 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,842 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,670 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 30, 2018 Birthday: 06/04/1978 Share Posted March 23, 2008 l hope you will are able to get rid of those icky bugs. l know how you feel......ewww l just **shudder** when l think of them. Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Could l simply move the cage, spray cockroach spray around the area the cage is normally in, then when the fumes are gone, put the cage back? I ask only because there isn't really enough room to put those things like the bait - won't my birds eat it? I haven' got a very big cage, the base is about the same as any normal "pet shop" cage, but its taller, yes, l know, after l bought it and showed it on here l was told l bought the wrong one But anyway, l don't know if l have enough room? They were all underneath the wire on the bottom, where the birds put their feet, but on top of the newspaper. It scared me so bad, my poor little things, l wonder how long its been going on. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have an extreme aversion to using any kind of toxic sprays. You could raise your cage up on blocks or something like that and use baits under. Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have an extreme aversion to using any kind of toxic sprays. You could raise your cage up on blocks or something like that and use baits under. The cage is on a wheel-around stand, should l put the bait around the ground under and near the stand? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) I have an extreme aversion to using any kind of toxic sprays. You could raise your cage up on blocks or something like that and use baits under. The cage is on a wheel-around stand, should l put the bait around the ground under and near the stand? That kind of makes them pretty determined cockroaches doesnt it is there the usual gap between a cage grate on the bottom and the tray underneath where the baits could go ? Failing this a daily dump of tray contents and disinfect. I like the sticky traps ...they work well for moths and cockies with no toxins. You can get the sticky pantry moth traps...they might work in this case. Edited March 24, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted March 23, 2008 ewww. yucky... they must be exterminated... at all costs... death to all cockroaches... Good luck with that... I hate them too. Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 That kind of makes them pretty determined cokcroaches doesnt it is there the usual gap between a cage grate on the bottom and the tray underneath where the baits could go ? Failing this a daily dump of tray contents and disinfect. I like the sticky traps ...they work well for moths and cockies with no toxins. You can get the sticky pantry moth traps...they might work in this case. Haha, thats what l thought! Yes there is a gap, about 2cms l'd say? maybe more. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 24, 2008 That kind of makes them pretty determined cokcroaches doesnt it is there the usual gap between a cage grate on the bottom and the tray underneath where the baits could go ? Failing this a daily dump of tray contents and disinfect. I like the sticky traps ...they work well for moths and cockies with no toxins. You can get the sticky pantry moth traps...they might work in this case. Haha, thats what l thought! Yes there is a gap, about 2cms l'd say? maybe more. Put a thick layer of paper on the bottom of the budgies cage then and bait the tray with either cockroach baits or the sticky trap baits. Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 That kind of makes them pretty determined cokcroaches doesnt it is there the usual gap between a cage grate on the bottom and the tray underneath where the baits could go ? Failing this a daily dump of tray contents and disinfect. I like the sticky traps ...they work well for moths and cockies with no toxins. You can get the sticky pantry moth traps...they might work in this case. Haha, thats what l thought! Yes there is a gap, about 2cms l'd say? maybe more. Put a thick layer of paper on the bottom of the budgies cage then and bait the tray with either cockroach baits or the sticky trap baits. Won't Sherbet and Fizzy try and eat the bait? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Won't Sherbet and Fizzy try and eat the bait? Cant you keep them away by the thick layer of paper ?? How are they able to get to the tray underneath ? One type of bait is just sticky paper. The other kind keep a food bait inside of a plastic disc. I am sure you will work something out Edited March 24, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
NickNack 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,939 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 602 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,125 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/01/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 13, 2009 Birthday: 31/01/1980 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Kaz ... I did a study on these dirty dang beasty bugs in University. And one of the main thing we were told by professional exterminators was is that roaches are attracted to NEWSPAPER. People often use newspapers to line shelves in pantrys or cupboards or drawers with the paper & then found they were overwhelmed by these industrious bugs. Cockroaches are also attracted to wallpaper because of the paste or glue on the back. The paste has a flour which is a gluten they eat. They will also crawl into your phone or tv, radio or any electrical appliance & chew the rubber insulation off the wires to live if they cannot find any other food once they are in your home. They like newspapers because it is where they lay their egg pouch & the pouch stays warm & hidden in the paper. The babys hatch & can live off the paper fiber as it also is a gluten base. GLUTENS are what is starch, starches that are in pasta, breads & rice. Newspapers are recycled paper made with a flour base & shredded paper fiber. Each cockroach is built to have both the male & female sexual organs. They can meet up with ANY another cockroach even of the same sex & mate ONCE & only once & both roaches will now have enough sperm & eggs inside them to lay eggs for up to 5 years. 5 YEARS ! Providing nobody finds them running across the kitchen floor & squishes them before they or it hides or gets away. That's 5 years too much time for baby laying egg pouches for me ! HEAT & high warmth are a major contributor to why roaches can be hanging around. This is the temperature they need to multiply & lay egg pouches. Because their pouches of babys can't hatch in the cold. THUS THE NEED FOR NEWSPAPER. Newspaper is a warm insulator. We have this cockroach chalk here in Ontario. It comes from China. It's also called BABY CHALK because its safe to write lines on the floor or walls where babys will touch. It's sold in most hardware stores. It's pet friendly. A cat or dog can lick it & it won't affect them. So it should be safe for birds. You can draw lines around areas that the roaches go. If they have to climb up the walls to get into the feed dishes then draw lines around the aviary walls & lower. Anywhere the bug will cross. It will drop the bug to the floor & it dies. I hope this helps. I HATE THESE DANG BUGGIES. But learning about them was fascinating. But it still won't stop me from killing one if & when I'd see one. Good luck with your problem. Oh ya ... Boracic or Borasic Acid Powder ... which is an eye wash & sold in Pharmacy's is also used to kill & control cockroaches. I don't know if it's safe around your birds. I would think it be somewhat safe. You use it to wash your eyes ! Link to comment
maesie 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,386 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,580 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/11/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2013 Birthday: 20/04/1979 Share Posted March 24, 2008 WOW... 5 YEARS!!!!! That was very interesting reading there NN. I bought some for my Lizards to eat once and NEVER again... They were just repulsive. They climbed up everything and stunk to 'kingdom come'... Good luck with getting rid of them Missy! Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Oh l see, put a layer of thick paper OVER the wire at the bottom, as in on top, and put the bait underneath so its enclosed. Do l keep the tray in or remove the tray? Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted March 24, 2008 There is something "dirty" around or in the cage that they are drawn too. It have to get rid of them because they can carry disease and can make your birds sick. I don't deal with them much where we live and I am sure others will come and and give you better advice then myself. Fresh Fruit and Veg can also bring these Make sure that you COMPLETELY remove all traces - If you slip a bit of Fruit or veg between bars these too need to be cleaned ...... I HATE COCKAROACHES WITH A PASSION they are the only thing that makes me Quiver and Freak out ... Good Luck Link to comment
Vickykh 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,752 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 180 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 23, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) I know what you are going through because I also have a phobia for cockroaches. If I see 1 cockroach around there is always a possibility that there is more. I had heard that rosemary and garlic can deter cockroaches. I am not sure exactly how this works. I think it may be an old wives tale. Anyhow, I sometimes place some rosemary in my kitchen cupboards. I'm not sure if this has worked but find that I don't have too many cockies around. I dont know if your cage is indoors or outdoors but maybe you could try having some rosemary or garlic outside the cage or under the tray as it may harm your birds if inside the cage. I wish you the best of luck in getting rid of these nasties. Edited March 24, 2008 by Vickykh Link to comment
Guest lonebudgie Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Remove the cage from the stand and spray the wheels and legs with surface spray , that should stop them from climbing in . Link to comment
Missy 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,618 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 228 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,715 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 20, 2008 Birthday: 08/07/1987 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 I did a major thorough clean of the cage, l even sprayed the stand with cockroach spray.. I have a question though, l let the stand air-out for about 20-30mins, so there shouldn't be any fumes coming off it, but l got down on my hands and knees and vacuumed up the seed off the concrete ground, and l then sprayed the area where the cage normally goes with cockroach spray. The concrete is underneath an awning, so l moved the birds outside on the grass more than 5m away. Just wondering how long l have to wait to let the fumes go away so l can put the birds back? Link to comment
mag 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Member ID: 3,238 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 83 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 520 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 30, 2011 Birthday: 16/06/1963 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I did a major thorough clean of the cage, l even sprayed the stand with cockroach spray.. I have a question though, l let the stand air-out for about 20-30mins, so there shouldn't be any fumes coming off it, but l got down on my hands and knees and vacuumed up the seed off the concrete ground, and l then sprayed the area where the cage normally goes with cockroach spray. The concrete is underneath an awning, so l moved the birds outside on the grass more than 5m away. Just wondering how long l have to wait to let the fumes go away so l can put the birds back? Ask the manufacturer they have a 1800 number (free call) most times or a web address, just have a look on the can.... Link to comment
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