Denise 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Just wondered if someone could tell me if I have splinted this chicks splayed legs properly. It is 10 days old and only noticed how bad they were today. Not having a good day with budgies today Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Just wondered if someone could tell me if I have splinted this chicks splayed legs properly. It is 10 days old and only noticed how bad they were today.Not having a good day with budgies today Looks really good :hap: Make sure baby can get around still. Watch out for swelling of the legs and feet ( in case the holes are too tight ) ...............cut away excess sponge so baby can balance :DI am proud of you...very decisive and all done at the right time to make a difference Link to comment
Zebra 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 1,938 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,201 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,740 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 16, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I hope the baby's legs are going to be okay :angel1: Link to comment
shaunx 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,658 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2007 Birthday: 27/02/1958 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (Laughing out loud) baby looks cute in that picture even though this is a serious matter All the best and really hope the baby pulls threw okay Best of luck. Link to comment
KeetCrazy 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,317 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 96 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Great picture of splinting!! Thanks for the info and sharing the picture. Link to comment
thk 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,445 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,730 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2010 Birthday: 17/08/1948 Share Posted November 15, 2007 It is a serious matter but I have to say its one of the cutest "baby photos" i've seen. Hopefully the little champ will turn out fine! Beautiful little baby!! Link to comment
Ravengypsy 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,708 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 5, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2007 where did you get the splints? or did you make them? great picture on how to splint for those of us who haven't had to do it yet. Thanks. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 15, 2007 where did you get the splints? or did you make them? great picture on how to splint for those of us who haven't had to do it yet. Thanks. We have a topic in our FAQ section on splay legs and solution to fix http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....c=14002&hl= Link to comment
Ravengypsy 0 Posted November 15, 2007 Member ID: 3,708 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 386 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 5, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2007 thanks Kaz, I bookmarked it Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 18, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 I am having so much trouble with the mother of this baby and the 2nd baby (I have had to splint it also). The mother keeps chewing the sponge off the babies, yesterday I had to replace them 5 times each and today wasn't much better? Does anybody have any ideas? Between the hen doing that and the cock throwing everything I put in the nest box out into the cage I'll be insane shortly I think Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 18, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I am having so much trouble with the mother of this baby and the 2nd baby (I have had to splint it also).The mother keeps chewing the sponge off the babies, yesterday I had to replace them 5 times each and today wasn't much better? Does anybody have any ideas? Between the hen doing that and the cock throwing everything I put in the nest box out into the cage I'll be insane shortly I think Try cutting all excess sponge away so its less noticeable. Put a small block of wood in the nestbox for Mum to chew on, and also a spray of millet. Have you also been giving the babies a drop of calcivet each day ? and calcivet to the parents drinking water ? Link to comment
macka 0 Posted November 18, 2007 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Denise,another way of doing it is to put another ring on the other leg & tie the 2legs together with the string off feed bags or cotten.You will need to use a split,if you havent a split ring,just cut a ring open & use that & close the ring around the chicks leg.O~O the 2 rings & the string inbetween.If the cock bird is throwing out the shaveings,throw him out &leave the hen to look after the chicks, Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Denise,another way of doing it is to put another ring on the other leg & tie the 2legs together with the string off feed bags or cotten.You will need to use a split,if you havent a split ring,just cut a ring open &use that & close the ring around the chicks leg.O~O the 2 rings & the string inbetween.If the cock bird is throwing out the shaveings,throw him out &leave the hen to look after the chicks, I have found today that it is the cock that is chewing the splints off not the hen. So if I take him out will she be able to cope with 5 chicks in the nest? She has been getting very nippy with him interferring, so taking him out might be the solution? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Denise,another way of doing it is to put another ring on the other leg & tie the 2legs together with the string off feed bags or cotten.You will need to use a split,if you havent a split ring,just cut a ring open &use that & close the ring around the chicks leg.O~O the 2 rings & the string inbetween.If the cock bird is throwing out the shaveings,throw him out &leave the hen to look after the chicks, I have found today that it is the cock that is chewing the splints off not the hen. So if I take him out will she be able to cope with 5 chicks in the nest? She has been getting very nippy with him interferring, so taking him out might be the solution? Sounds like a good idea Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 I am having so much trouble with the mother of this baby and the 2nd baby (I have had to splint it also).The mother keeps chewing the sponge off the babies, yesterday I had to replace them 5 times each and today wasn't much better? Does anybody have any ideas? Between the hen doing that and the cock throwing everything I put in the nest box out into the cage I'll be insane shortly I think Try cutting all excess sponge away so its less noticeable. Put a small block of wood in the nestbox for Mum to chew on, and also a spray of millet. Have you also been giving the babies a drop of calcivet each day ? and calcivet to the parents drinking water ? Yes I have been giving the Mum a millet spray in the box each day and putting calcivet in her drinking water and a drop in each of the chicks mouths each day for the last week. I have splinted the 3rd ones legs today and the last 2 don't look promising either. What would be the reason for them all having splayed legs? Was there something I could have done to prevent this? I have taken the cock out this afternoon and things have settled down well, but they are calling to one another. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 19, 2007 All chicks are affected with rickets. This is a severe lack of calcium. Could be that the parents do not process the calcium well enough or just arent getting enough calcium leading up to breeding and feeding the chicks. Calcivet helps in their drinking water prior to and through egg laying. I had a hen that had a whole batch of chicks with rickets regardless of sufficient calcium supplied to the birds. Most of them died. Keeled over in the nest box with legs outstretched, laid on their backs and got weaker and weaker. Parents stop feeding at that point. I have two survivors in the aviary who sit on their "ankles" ...with feet sideways. Link to comment
macka 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Denise,Are you sure,there legs are splayed.Could you put a photo up of the chicks. I just wondering if you might be,being a bit over corches. Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) Denise,Are you sure,there legs are splayed.Could you put a photo up of the chicks.I just wondering if you might be,being a bit over corches. I have just taken this photo of the 4th chick which is 10 days old, this one doesn't look as bad as the first 3 they had their legs straight out each side. KAZ Posted Today, 20:16 All chicks are affected with rickets. This is a severe lack of calcium. Could be that the parents do not process the calcium well enough or just arent getting enough calcium leading up to breeding and feeding the chicks. Calcivet helps in their drinking water prior to and through egg laying. I had a hen that had a whole batch of chicks with rickets regardless of sufficient calcium supplied to the birds. Most of them died. Keeled over in the nest box with legs outstretched, laid on their backs and got weaker and weaker. Parents stop feeding at that point. I have two survivors in the aviary who sit on their "ankles" ...with feet sideways. Is there anything I can do for rickets? Edited November 19, 2007 by Denise Link to comment
macka 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I could be wrong,I have been once tonight.But Iam pritty sure there is nothing wrong with that chicks legs.Splayed legs are streight out from the hip.Kaz or someone,will post a photo of a splayed leg chick. :beer: Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) photo coming up Check chick on the left also note the redness at the joints. Edited November 19, 2007 by KAZ Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Tomorrow I will take the splints off the others and take photos of them, their legs were straight out each side of their bodies. Can't do it tonight as I have to take the hen out as she won't let me get the babies out without biting me very hard photo coming up Check chick on the leftalso note the redness at the joints.This is how the first three were, very red joints too. Link to comment
macka 0 Posted November 19, 2007 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Yes that chick is splayed.But the other photo,the chick appears to be siting okay.But if the joints are red looking it will be splayed Denise. Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted November 20, 2007 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Took splints off chick 1 and 2 this morning, the mother wouldn't let me get chick 3 out (I'll try later) Chick 1 has have the splint on for 1 week and looks good, is jumping around everywhere. Last week it's legs were out sideways like the photo Kaz put up. Chick 2 I am concerned about. It seems to flop around on it's side most of the time with it's head down on the floor a lot. After 4-5 days splinting one leg looks okay but the other is still stretch out straight and the toes look funny? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted November 20, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I'd put the splints back on for another week on both chicks if you can Denise. The toes on the second chick might not come good, but it will be able to get around and perch in the end. Link to comment
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