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:) I know the feeling Vonn...........and it strikes us at the oddest moments. :ausb: They say time heals all wounds but sometimes I wonder about that statement, but yes, I am getting stronger about my late Rosey and Jodie although I still tear up at times. (and I always tear up about my late dog Morgan and it's been over two years). We shall be okay!!!

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:) I know the feeling Vonn...........and it strikes us at the oddest moments. :ausb: They say time heals all wounds but sometimes I wonder about that statement, but yes, I am getting stronger about my late Rosey and Jodie although I still tear up at times. (and I always tear up about my late dog Morgan and it's been over two years). We shall be okay!!!

l know what you mean about that stament of " time heals all wounds," it is not true. what l always tell myself and other's is, "as time goes by you only get stronger and it will still hurt but you learn how to cope with it."

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I totally agree, birdluv, it doesn't actually heal, you just learn to cope better as the hurt is not quite so 'raw'.

 

I'm so sad to hear that you have lost 3 pets, Phoebe - that must be so tough. How did you lose Rosie and Jodie - as long as it isn't too painful to talk about.?

 

Thanks for the PM, Elley, and the hugs.

 

I received an email from my avian vet yesterday, telling me how sorry he was about Lukie and warning me to burn the wooden playgym and all wooden toys, and safely dispose of all porous items eg toys etc., which cannot be burnt ! So you were both right to tell me to get rid of everything. He must have read my mind! He said that this bacteria is particularly difficult to get rid of - especially on porous surfaces. I had only recently built Lukie another playgym from a kit I had bought, as an alternative to the one he already had. He had only used it twice! I would never want another bird to go through what Lukie went through, though, so burning the item it the safest. If I discard it at a rubbish site, someone may be tempted to take it, thinking that it just needed disinfecting and would then be fine. Likewise I will destroy the toys, as far as I can, to prevent the same thing happening to them.

 

Luv

 

Vonn

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I believe time heals because the intense pain you felt in the beginning is not as intense. I have lost so many pets & my dad too (the 24th was 2 yrs since we were at his bedside when he passed). Also just recently my 18y old German Shep Mix. I will remember the pain, the day, how it happened and there are many a days I break down thinking about my Dad, Brandy, Pretty and so many that have touched my life but the pain though is there is not as intense. The memories do make you smile more and more...

 

Your welcome....keep in touch.

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I received an email from my avian vet yesterday, telling me how sorry he was about Lukie and warning me to burn the wooden playgym and all wooden toys, and safely dispose of all porous items eg toys etc., which cannot be burnt ! So you were both right to tell me to get rid of everything. He must have read my mind! He said that this bacteria is particularly difficult to get rid of - especially on porous surfaces.

 

What was the final "diagnosis" Vonn? If it was "mega" it NOT bacteria. "It has now been positively identified as a yeast and is NO LONGER named "megabacteria". Its new name is Avian Gastric Yeast (or AGY)". This is important as if any vet is recommending anti-bacterial treatments or disinfectants they will have little or no effect. The research paper is here: Studies on Megabacteria (Avian Gastric Yeast) by Dr. David Phalen, Dr. Robert Moore, Dr. Betty Tomaszewski.

 

However I totally agree to get rid of all the old toys etc. It makes it easier to make a totally fresh start when you're ready for a new bird. I found it hard to re-use my much loved but departed German Shepherds collar on a new dog ... seemed like a betrayal.

 

KathyW.

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Oh Elly, how absolutely awful. I am so sorry. I do understand what you mean. The first few days are the worst and then you find you are not crying as much and each day gets less painful. But it never goes completely, as you say. It makes me realise how lucky I am not to have endured as much pain as you. Doesn't make me feel any better, as my heart aches for you. Lots & lots of hugs to you.LuvVonn xx

I received an email from my avian vet yesterday, telling me how sorry he was about Lukie and warning me to burn the wooden playgym and all wooden toys, and safely dispose of all porous items eg toys etc., which cannot be burnt ! So you were both right to tell me to get rid of everything. He must have read my mind! He said that this bacteria is particularly difficult to get rid of - especially on porous surfaces.
What was the final "diagnosis" Vonn? If it was "mega" it NOT bacteria. "It has now been positively identified as a yeast and is NO LONGER named "megabacteria". Its new name is Avian Gastric Yeast (or AGY)". This is important as if any vet is recommending anti-bacterial treatments or disinfectants they will have little or no effect. The research paper is here: Studies on Megabacteria (Avian Gastric Yeast) by Dr. David Phalen, Dr. Robert Moore, Dr. Betty Tomaszewski.However I totally agree to get rid of all the old toys etc. It makes it easier to make a totally fresh start when you're ready for a new bird. I found it hard to re-use my much loved but departed German Shepherds collar on a new dog ... seemed like a betrayal.KathyW.
Yes, it was Megabacteria - my vet called it Macrorhabdus. I made a mistake calling it a bacteria, you are quite right it is a yeast. I was sad to hear about your German Shepherd and I feel just like you do about some of Lukie's things that he particularly liked. Our pets really capture our hearts, don't they. Thanks for your reply.LuvVonn

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Guest Phoebe

:dbb1: Hope you and your husband are doing okay Vonn, my precious rescue cockatiel Jodie died in the vets' office of a heart attack in March and I had an autopsy done as she just "suddenly" got sick, cirrhosis of the liver of unknown causes but she had a very good diet. Despite having hardly any toes (bitten off by her mother), she did very well and was happy and affectionate and I think she was about 4 or 5. (all records destroyed) My Rosey Bourke (memory fails me, age 9?), started getting a huge tumour under her behind, it was aspirated a couple of times and you wouldn't have believed the amount of yellow fluid in the test tube, it was almost the size of her. Sent for analysis but not an infection. Kept growing rapidly back and her breathing was comprimised so we had to have her put down, a very sad day, not proven to be cancer but thought to be so. :ausb: Still miss both of them a lot.

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:D Hope you and your husband are doing okay Vonn, my precious rescue cockatiel Jodie died in the vets' office of a heart attack in March and I had an autopsy done as she just "suddenly" got sick, cirrhosis of the liver of unknown causes but she had a very good diet. Despite having hardly any toes (bitten off by her mother), she did very well and was happy and affectionate and I think she was about 4 or 5. (all records destroyed) My Rosey Bourke (memory fails me, age 9?), started getting a huge tumour under her behind, it was aspirated a couple of times and you wouldn't have believed the amount of yellow fluid in the test tube, it was almost the size of her. Sent for analysis but not an infection. Kept growing rapidly back and her breathing was comprimised so we had to have her put down, a very sad day, not proven to be cancer but thought to be so. :( Still miss both of them a lot.

 

 

That must have been so hard for you Phoebe. Thanks for telling me about them. Can't believe that the mother bit the toes off her baby!? I wonder what on earth would make her do that! How strange that he had cirrhosis of the liver despite a good diet. I wonder why so many budgies are prone to tumours - I wish we knew. I am so sorry about your loss.

 

My husband and I are coping much better. We are destroying everything today,as well as the cage, as my husband & I can't bear to look at it, anyway. I am going to try and learn all I can about budgies now and especially all the things that can cause ill health etc.

 

Thanks again for sharing this with me, it must still be hard to talk about. I appreciate it.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xx

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I am very glad you have answered to what happened. You can rest assure that you did everything for Lukie and it was never your fault.

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I am very glad you have answered to what happened. You can rest assure that you did everything for Lukie and it was never your fault.

 

 

Thanks for saying that, Elly. It is a comfort to know we did the right thing for our little Lukie - I couldn't bear him to suffer.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xx

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Thought I'd tell you that I received a lovely sympathy card for the vet this morning! I thought it was such a thoughtful thing to do. They are very caring at that surgery. I didn't realise that you could buy sympathy cards for the loss of a pet. I will always send one, from now on, if anyone I know loses a pet as this one meant so much to me.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xxx

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It is wonderful. My vet did that for all my pets that they took care of. I have seen them in the store and you can even do an e-greeting for free. I tried to send you one :(, but I didn't see your e-mail so I just PM'd you. ((hugs))

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It is wonderful. My vet did that for all my pets that they took care of. I have seen them in the store and you can even do an e-greeting for free. I tried to send you one :(, but I didn't see your e-mail so I just PM'd you. ((hugs))

 

 

It was so sweet of you to try and send me one! Thank you! I will definitely look for them next time I go shopping as it'll be nice to know who stocks them in my town. I will also have a look at the ecard ones.

 

I have had a lot of problems with my email account and I am now going to change it. I used Outlook Express. So many people never get my mail and I don't get theirs. Very frustrating.

 

Thanks for the reply, Elly, and LOTS of hugs to you too.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xx

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Thought I'd tell you that I received a lovely sympathy card for the vet this morning! I thought it was such a thoughtful thing to do. They are very caring at that surgery. I didn't realise that you could buy sympathy cards for the loss of a pet. I will always send one, from now on, if anyone I know loses a pet as this one meant so much to me.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xxx

that was so nice, that they did that. l know when two of my dear pets passed away. l was so surprised that my vet sent sympathy cards to me. when l opened the cards l just sat down and cried. It meant so much to me that they cared enough to do that.

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I also shed a tear when I opened the card, birdluv. Like you, I just wasn't expecting it. I think it is a lovely thing for them to do. It means so much.

 

Luv

 

Vonn xx

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