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3 months before:(so many yellow areas on her body)

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Now:(a lot of green areas intead of some place)

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Her babies:( Linked a Greywing Opaline Green)

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maybe it's a Recessive Pied,but there are no pied-marked feathers on the wings,the wing looks like a normal Opaline.

 

Opaline?Dominant or Recessive Pied?Texas clearbody?Australian Clearbodies?

 

I don't know! Who can help me?

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Mmm...very nice bird you have there

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The top two look to be Clear bodies but with Dominant pieds.

 

Opaline in the young but not grey wings.

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She has very pretty color, so bright in the first picture

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Thanks !~

 

If the hen mate to a Ino. cock.

 

what's the result of there babies?

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Your bird is a Opaline Texas Clear Body, they are what's called PAR INO it means that they have only partly lost their body colour not completely like the Albino & Lutino. I think that the fact that she has still some Green parts on her body instead of the usual Yellow in the TCB is because the gene has only worked in some areas & not others. If you were showing her it would be considered at fault.

 

I think you are saying that you mated her with an Opaline Greywing Green & you got all Normal Opaline Green babies. This is normal as the male's colour would mask the TCB, but all your male babies would be what are called split for Texas Clear Body.

 

As you ask… if you mated your hen TCB with an Ino cock… with Lutino you would get all TCB babies of both sexes. Probably all in the Green [Yellow] series. If you mated her with an Albino, you would also get all TCB babies, if she was split for Blue you would get some Blue TCB's & some Yellow. If she isn't split for Blue all babies would be Green series, but split for Blue.

 

If you keep some of her male babies & mate them to TCB's or Ino you will get some TCB babies.

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Thank you very mush!Sir~

Now~I know it clearly~

Mmm~ :hap: :(

:)

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:D Budige genetics can be hard to grasp at first.

 

Her to an Ino cock = Ino hens and clear body sons.

 

*Warning - advanced genetic talk ahead*

TCB babies of both sexes

Not both sexes she can only give a normal gene to her daughters who will get the Ino gene (wither albino or lutino) from the father (and as hen must show this) the sons will get the Ino gene + a Clearbody gene, since this is a par ino gene they will appear as clearbodies but can create full ino daughters later.

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very beautful birds you have.

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Gorgeous birds! :D

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:D Budige genetics can be hard to grasp at first. Her to an Ino cock = Ino hens and clear body sons.*Warning - advanced genetic talk ahead*
TCB babies of both sexes
Not both sexes she can only give a normal gene to her daughters who will get the Ino gene (wither albino or lutino) from the father (and as hen must show this) the sons will get the Ino gene + a Clearbody gene, since this is a par ino gene they will appear as clearbodies but can create full ino daughters later.
Thanks your right Kaz, it must have been too early in the morning for me, as I was what I thought was very careful & checked with Ghalib Al-Nasser's site. to confirm that I was giving right information & still I got it wrong.

 

Dragonfly Sky…Kaz is right I got it wrong…If you pair your hen with an Ino…Lutino or Albino…you will get Ino hens & TCB cocks split for INO.

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Thanks your right Kaz, it must have been too early in the morning for me, as I was what I thought was very careful & checked with Ghalib Al-Nasser's site. to confirm that I was giving right information & still I got it wrong.

 

Dragonfly Sky…Kaz is right I got it wrong…If you pair your hen with an Ino…Lutino or Albino…you will get Ino hens & TCB cocks split for INO.

 

Cough cough- Nerwen- cough cough

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Cough cough- Nerwen- cough cough

:blush:

 

 

I almost agreed with you at first Norm then read it a second time before realizing what was off.

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Clear bodies should be paired to Lutinos to bring the flights back to neutral.

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Which should I choose to be better?

Lutino or Abino?

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Which should I choose to be better?

Lutino or Abino?

 

If you want to breed birds the same colour as your bird, I would choose a good Lutino.

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If this was a true TCB, then its flight feathers wouldn't be black, but they would be grizzled grey, much lighter color. This is a truelly unusual color variety, perhaps even something new, my opine.

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If this was a true TCB, then its flight feathers wouldn't be black, but they would be grizzled grey, much lighter color. This is a truelly unusual color variety, perhaps even something new, my opine.

 

 

I didn't read through all the posts, as this is a seven year old topic. But Trefto, you are right, and I don't see why they ever thought this was a TCB. You can see in the photos that it is obviously a recessive pied with a very lightly marked abdomen. There are spots of body color all over it.

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