Dragonfly-sky 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 3,314 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 14, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2007 3 months before:(so many yellow areas on her body) Now:(a lot of green areas intead of some place) Her babies:( Linked a Greywing Opaline Green) maybe it's a Recessive Pied,but there are no pied-marked feathers on the wings,the wing looks like a normal Opaline. Opaline?Dominant or Recessive Pied?Texas clearbody?Australian Clearbodies? I don't know! Who can help me? Link to comment
Paulh29 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 2,365 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 374 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/05/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 4, 2009 Birthday: 29/10/1955 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Mmm...very nice bird you have there Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 6, 2007 The top two look to be Clear bodies but with Dominant pieds. Opaline in the young but not grey wings. Link to comment
Zebra 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 1,938 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,201 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,740 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 16, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2007 She has very pretty color, so bright in the first picture Link to comment
Dragonfly-sky 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 3,314 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks !~ If the hen mate to a Ino. cock. what's the result of there babies? Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted August 6, 2007 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) Your bird is a Opaline Texas Clear Body, they are what's called PAR INO it means that they have only partly lost their body colour not completely like the Albino & Lutino. I think that the fact that she has still some Green parts on her body instead of the usual Yellow in the TCB is because the gene has only worked in some areas & not others. If you were showing her it would be considered at fault. I think you are saying that you mated her with an Opaline Greywing Green & you got all Normal Opaline Green babies. This is normal as the male's colour would mask the TCB, but all your male babies would be what are called split for Texas Clear Body. As you ask… if you mated your hen TCB with an Ino cock… with Lutino you would get all TCB babies of both sexes. Probably all in the Green [Yellow] series. If you mated her with an Albino, you would also get all TCB babies, if she was split for Blue you would get some Blue TCB's & some Yellow. If she isn't split for Blue all babies would be Green series, but split for Blue. If you keep some of her male babies & mate them to TCB's or Ino you will get some TCB babies. Edited August 6, 2007 by Norm Link to comment
Dragonfly-sky 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Member ID: 3,314 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thank you very mush!Sir~ Now~I know it clearly~ Mmm~ :hap: Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Budige genetics can be hard to grasp at first. Her to an Ino cock = Ino hens and clear body sons. *Warning - advanced genetic talk ahead* TCB babies of both sexes Not both sexes she can only give a normal gene to her daughters who will get the Ino gene (wither albino or lutino) from the father (and as hen must show this) the sons will get the Ino gene + a Clearbody gene, since this is a par ino gene they will appear as clearbodies but can create full ino daughters later. Link to comment
birdluv 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Member ID: 2,137 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,842 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,670 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 30, 2018 Birthday: 06/04/1978 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) very beautful birds you have. Edited August 7, 2007 by birdluv Link to comment
Bea 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Member ID: 860 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 400 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,240 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,695 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 22, 2009 Birthday: 12/09/1989 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Gorgeous birds! Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted August 7, 2007 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Budige genetics can be hard to grasp at first. Her to an Ino cock = Ino hens and clear body sons.*Warning - advanced genetic talk ahead*TCB babies of both sexesNot both sexes she can only give a normal gene to her daughters who will get the Ino gene (wither albino or lutino) from the father (and as hen must show this) the sons will get the Ino gene + a Clearbody gene, since this is a par ino gene they will appear as clearbodies but can create full ino daughters later.Thanks your right Kaz, it must have been too early in the morning for me, as I was what I thought was very careful & checked with Ghalib Al-Nasser's site. to confirm that I was giving right information & still I got it wrong. Dragonfly Sky…Kaz is right I got it wrong…If you pair your hen with an Ino…Lutino or Albino…you will get Ino hens & TCB cocks split for INO. Edited August 7, 2007 by Norm Link to comment
the pie 0 Posted August 8, 2007 Member ID: 2,384 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,172 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,460 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 27, 2012 Birthday: 25/08/1981 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Thanks your right Kaz, it must have been too early in the morning for me, as I was what I thought was very careful & checked with Ghalib Al-Nasser's site. to confirm that I was giving right information & still I got it wrong. Dragonfly Sky…Kaz is right I got it wrong…If you pair your hen with an Ino…Lutino or Albino…you will get Ino hens & TCB cocks split for INO. Cough cough- Nerwen- cough cough Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted August 8, 2007 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted August 8, 2007 (edited) Cough cough- Nerwen- cough cough I almost agreed with you at first Norm then read it a second time before realizing what was off. Edited August 8, 2007 by Nerwen Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 9, 2007 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Clear bodies should be paired to Lutinos to bring the flights back to neutral. Link to comment
Dragonfly-sky 0 Posted August 9, 2007 Member ID: 3,314 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 230 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 Which should I choose to be better? Lutino or Abino? Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted August 9, 2007 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) Which should I choose to be better?Lutino or Abino? If you want to breed birds the same colour as your bird, I would choose a good Lutino. Edited August 9, 2007 by Norm Link to comment
trefto 0 Posted September 12, 2014 Member ID: 7,779 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 510 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/10/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 14, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) If this was a true TCB, then its flight feathers wouldn't be black, but they would be grizzled grey, much lighter color. This is a truelly unusual color variety, perhaps even something new, my opine. Edited September 12, 2014 by trefto Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted September 21, 2014 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted September 21, 2014 If this was a true TCB, then its flight feathers wouldn't be black, but they would be grizzled grey, much lighter color. This is a truelly unusual color variety, perhaps even something new, my opine. I didn't read through all the posts, as this is a seven year old topic. But Trefto, you are right, and I don't see why they ever thought this was a TCB. You can see in the photos that it is obviously a recessive pied with a very lightly marked abdomen. There are spots of body color all over it. Link to comment
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