Norm 0 Posted June 26, 2007 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) Thought you might like to see my new cabinets I built using pine. I build them with a divider position in the middle in case I need to divided, for any reason, sometimes I use them to breed canaries & they don’t need such a big cage. Also I thought they might come in handy if I decided to try using one cock with a number of hens. I have a couple of cocks that seem to be infertile, I was going to get rid of them, then thought with that idea of using a good cock with more than one hen, maybe I could make use of them. I could run them with the hen, then confine them to one side & run the cock in that I want to mate with them, then return them to the hen, after to help feed the young, that I “hopefully” will get. :budgiedance: I used cage fronts that are secured using those plastic things, that hold fly screens in place [don’t know their proper name sorry]. This enables me to remove them to clean out the cages when necessary. I was looking on here & I notice others were also looking for cage fronts, I eventually got mine from Chandlers [the ring people] from Sydney, I think they are just the middle people, don’t know if they make them themselves. Edited June 26, 2007 by Norm Link to comment
Wayno 0 Posted June 26, 2007 Member ID: 3,278 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 130 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17, 2012 Birthday: 02/10/1972 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Thought you might like to see my new cabinets I built using pine. I build them with a divider position in the middle in case I need to divided, for any reason, sometimes I use them to breed canaries & they don’t need such a big cage. Also I thought they might come in handy if I decided to try using one cock with a number of hens. I have a couple of cocks that seem to be infertile, I was going to get rid of them, then thought with that idea of using a good cock with more than one hen, maybe I could make use of them. I could run them with the hen, then confine them to one side & run the cock in that I want to mate with them, then return them to the hen, after to help feed the young, that I “hopefully” will get. :budgiedance: I used cage fronts that are secured using those plastic things, that hold fly screens in place [don’t know their proper name sorry]. This enables me to remove them to clean out the cages when necessary. I was looking on here & I notice others were also looking for cage fronts, I eventually got mine from Chandlers [the ring people] from Sydney, I think they are just the middle people, don’t know if they make them themselves. Norm, It will be interesting to see how you go with One COck to Two Hens, Not a bad idea when you think of it, but will it become too stressful on the Cock trying to bring up two clutches at once if the Hens both rear young at the same time. Please let us know how you go. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 26, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Great job, Norm. I am in the middle of making some new breeder cages too, in a series of three across with slide out dividers too. Yours look great :budgiedance: Link to comment
KathyW 0 Posted June 26, 2007 Member ID: 3,495 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 925 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/06/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) Wayno, as I read Norm's post, the biological father may not have to raise ANY of the chicks! He's got some cocks he suspects are infertile, but might make good "foster" fathers. The desired male gets to spend time with the ladies to produce fertile eggs (see Daz's post of Stan Richardson article An Unorthodox Breeding Method ) As I read Norm's post the infertile cocks get to go back with the hens to make themselves useful (feeding / raising chicks). It happens quite a bit in nature, cocks raising chicks that are not their own. Cheers, KathyW. Edited June 26, 2007 by KathyW Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Yes that is how I read it as well Kathy. Great looking cages and a neat idea with the clips (or what ever they are called) makes for great access to clean after breeding. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2007 excellent job :budgiedance: Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted June 27, 2007 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 Yes Kaz & KathyW, got it right, I hope the idea of the infertile cocks will work. I have sort of had it work, not exactly, but I had one of the infertile cocks with a hen & non of her eggs hatched, so I gave them a couple of foster chicks from another pair, then after the chicks were a few weeks old, I took the infertile cock away & substituted another cock, who after a few days helped her finish feeding the chicks & then got all her next batch [8 eggs] fertile. So switching can work, but maybe certain birds will be better than others. Hens seem pretty promiscuous, I read in an article that wild hens have been seen mating with several males, it’s quite common, as this gives the hen a much bigger genetic spread with her young, more chances of survival of her chicks. One of the infertile cocks I dearly want to get some young from, so if he scores some chicks it will be a bonus anyway. Kaz most of my cabinet units are three also, but I built them for breeding canaries, so I can have three lots breeding, then remove the dividers in the non breeding season, so they can fly the full extent. But now that I am using them for Budgies, I thought the bigger [double unit] was better, so only made two, as then the other one unit wasn’t much use for breeding budgies. Link to comment
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