Lankan 0 Posted April 11, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2007 JJ and CC have produced eggs and I was wondering what colour the baby will turn up you can see a picture of CC and JJ in my signature :fear Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) All your babies will be green unless JJ is split to blue (you need 2 blue genes 1 from each bird to have blue babies) 50% dominant pieds, 50% normals assuming CC is a normal with no dominant pied spot on the back of the head :fear. Edited April 12, 2007 by Elly Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 JJ and CC have produced JC I don't know if JJ is a split Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 12, 2007 JJ and CC have produced JC I don't know if JJ is a split If JJ and CC produced JC then JJ IS split to blue. Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 So will I have all blue babies or what colours will I have? I was also thinking of getting JC a male to mate with because he is ready to breed and If I wanted a different colours either than blue what colour should the male be CC has a small white spot on the back of the head but is very small does this mean she is dominant or it has to be a big white spot for it to be dominant Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2007 You will have 50% chance of blues and 50% chance of greens CC is a dominant pied then if she has a spot which means you will have 100% dominant pieds. It also means that dad JJ is split to opaline because JC is a hen so any opalines you get will be hens. Blue is recessive so if you pair her up with any green bird you will get greens. Lutino (all yellow) and Albino (all white) are sex linked and the male would need to be split to that to get these babies and they would be females. Link to comment
the pie 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 2,384 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,172 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,460 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 27, 2012 Birthday: 25/08/1981 Share Posted April 12, 2007 you won't get 100% Dom pieds even though they both are. But there is a chance there may Double factor Dominant pieds. (unless she is a recessive split instead like mine) I have paired 2 Dom pieds with no pieds before so it is luck of the draw. Chance of: DF dom pieds , Dom pieds, opalines and normals or a mix in shades of blue and green. Link to comment
Guest ellulah Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) I worked out the numbers for you (these are percentages and could be completely different to the end ratios) BOYS: 12.5% - Blue Normal 12.5% - Green Normal 25% - Blue Dominant Pied 25% - Green Dominant Pied 12.5% - Blue DF Dominant Pied 12.5% - Green DF Dominant Pied GIRLS 6.75% - Blue Normal 6.75% - Blue Opaline 6.75% - Green Normal 6.75% - Green Opaline 12.5% - Blue Dominant Pied 12.5% - Blue Opaline Dominant Pied 12.5% - Green Dominant Pied 12.5% - Green Opaline Dominant Pied 6.75% - Blue DF Dominant Pied 6.75% - Blue Opaline DF Dominant Pied 6.75% - Green DF Dominant Pied 6.75% - Green Opaline DF Dominant Pied These predictions are made on the assumption that CC is a Normal Blue (Cobalt, but I didn't calculate colour shades in this) and JJ is Light Green Dominant Pied split to Blue and Opaline. With all the above colours you could one of two shades, in the blue series you can get Cobalts (like CC) and Skyblues. And in the green series you could get Light Greens (like JJ) and Dark Greens. No guarantee that these numbers are right... I haven't done one of these predictions before Edited April 12, 2007 by ellulah Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2007 you won't get 100% Dom pieds even though they both are. But there is a chance there may Double factor Dominant pieds. (unless she is a recessive split instead like mine)I have paired 2 Dom pieds with no pieds before so it is luck of the draw. Chance of: DF dom pieds , Dom pieds, opalines and normals or a mix in shades of blue and green. Your right pie it was late last night wasn't thinking about the single and double factor and the recessive pied come if both are carrying the gene it is not related to the dominant pied gene. There are always those surprised of recessive genes Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Just to throw a spanner in the works...guys. A small spot might mean something other than dominant pied remember. The tiny spots can also be a part of spangle inheritance or even recessive. I have had what looked like normals with a tiny spot and that was from the spangle to recessive parents. Way back to breeding spangles dominant pieds were used. Spangles often have a spot and I have had chicks from spangle parents with a small spot. Maybe CC isnt dominant pied but born, instead of a spangle parent or showing recessive genetics ? Baby with tiny headspot and sibling Topic where we discussed the "tiny spot" http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....topic=12315&hl= a tiny spot does not always mean dominant pied Edited April 12, 2007 by Kaz Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2007 anything is possible Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Thanks alot guys you answer helps alot I will keep you updated when the chicks hatch and post a picture of them Link to comment
Dingo 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Member ID: 2,039 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 229 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,625 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 16, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2007 the male is also split for opaline. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2007 yep mentioned that way up above It will be interesting to see the babies for sure. Link to comment
Dingo 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Member ID: 2,039 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 229 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,625 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 16, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2007 yep mentioned that way up above It will be interesting to see the babies for sure. woops, didn't see that one before Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 13, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) thats okay (Laughing out loud) with so many posts and getting through them I miss things here and there myself Edited April 13, 2007 by Elly Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 I found one little bub inside the nest today Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted May 1, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 (edited) Here are the pictures of the bubs which are ranging from 4-8 days old http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/umesh54/DSC00713.jpg http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p14/umesh54/DSC00711.jpg Edited May 13, 2007 by Bea Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted May 1, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I can't wait to see how they feather up so we can see how well we did with guessing the results Very sweet Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted May 1, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 I can't wait to see how they feather up so we can see how well we did with guessing the results Very sweet I can't wait either Link to comment
Cheeta 0 Posted May 2, 2007 Member ID: 2,155 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,162 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2007 awww, cute babies!! and umm after reading all that, the last pics clearly shows that the mom is a clearflight pied! so she ain't 'normal... that would change the percentages a bit. Link to comment
Guest ellulah Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Clearflight pied is still a dom pied, so my calcs should still work :grbud: Just with different types of pied... you could end up with some gorgeous chicks! Link to comment
Cheeta 0 Posted May 3, 2007 Member ID: 2,155 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,162 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,840 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I haven't done any calculations myself, since CC was calculated as normal cobalt rather than dom pied cobalt, I was just more thinking along the line that the 'normal' percentage would drop and the dom pied percentage would increase. Link to comment
Guest ellulah Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Oh! Whoops I thought I had done CC as a pied, must be getting all these breeding budgies mixed up! You are right, a much higher percentage of pieds can be expected from this pair. Link to comment
Lankan 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Member ID: 3,222 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 495 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 (edited) I hope you like the updated pictures I think the first baby is a blue Edited May 4, 2007 by Lankan Link to comment
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