**KAZ** 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Parasitic Diseases Budgies with a crusty cere, feet and vent are usually infested with the Knemidokoptes mite. Most budgies with this condition are young (usually less than one year of age). These mites do not cause pruritis (itchiness), and cause a honeycomb type appearance to the skin and cere, upon close examination. Scrapings of the lesions or examination of the crusts in oil under the microscope will show the mites. The treatment of choice is ivermectin based upon careful dose calculation Dosage: 0.2 mg/kg PO, repeat in 10-14 day intervals until signs decrease. Although they do not appear to be very contagious, it is recommended that all birds kept in the same cage also be treated with ivermectin, either orally or topically. As with demodectic mange in dogs, this mite appears to be related to the immune status of the bird, and often the offspring of infested birds will develop Knemidokoptes, as well. Treatment should be repeated at two-week intervals until the bird is clinically normal. Long term infestation may result in permanently deformed beaks, which will require periodic shaping by an avian vet with a grinding tool and emery board. Mites do not live off the bird, so treating the cage is not necessary, but is recommended. Mites that occur in older birds usually indicate some underlying medical problem, such as hepatic lipidosis, diabetes mellitus or even tumors. Mites occasionally occur in other species of birds, rarely cockatiels. Red mites can occur in budgies and cockatiels. These mites are very contagious between birds of different species, and they suck blood. They are visible to the naked eye as tiny specks of red pepper. Red mites (Dermanyssus species) remain off the bird and climb on the host to take a blood meal. They can make the infested birds very nervous and irritated. They sometimes bite people when birds are absent. In addition to treating the birds with red mites, the entire cage and bird area must be thoroughly disinfected to prevent reinfestation. Treatment with oral ivermectin and topical 5% carbaryl, repeated weekly, is usually effective. I saw one case involving a military macaw that had a severe infestation with red mites, and the poor baby bird had multiple feather cysts caused by the damage from the mites. Feather mites can occur on budgies, and two species have been described to infest budgies. These mites, however, are not commonly encountered. Feather and quill mites can be found (rarely) on cockatiel feathers (usually primary and secondary remiges). Many budgie and 'tiel owners believe that they must use some sort of protection against mites, which can be hung on the outside of the cage, but these are ineffective and potentially dangerous, as the fumes can cause liver damage and perhaps cancer if inhaled for a long period of time. Mite protectors usually have mothballs (paradichlorobenzene) as the active ingredient. If a budgie does not have mites, a mite protector is not necessary to prevent infestation. If a budgie does have an external parasite, it is best to seek the expert advice of an avian veterinarian who can diagnose the exact problem and prescribe the correct medication to treat it at the proper intervals. -------------------- Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2007 you should pin this Bubbles and add to the FAQ's good information. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 you should pin this Bubbles and add to the FAQ's good information. Pinned Link to comment
Bea 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Member ID: 860 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 400 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,240 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,695 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 22, 2009 Birthday: 12/09/1989 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Very good info. It was a good idea to pin it. Link to comment
eyal 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Member ID: 3,001 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 30 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 225 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/12/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 21, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Very good info. It was a good idea to pin it. :nest: Hi i have a new budgie and I realized he got mites. I think I sprayed him a bit too much on his breast and tummy with a mite spray yesterday. He started sneezing occasionally last night and still going today Is it suppose to go? Eyal Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Very good info. It was a good idea to pin it. :nest: Hi i have a new budgie and I realized he got mites. I think I sprayed him a bit too much on his breast and tummy with a mite spray yesterday. He started sneezing occasionally last night and still going today Is it suppose to go? Eyal I don't use sprays for some of the reasons you have just experienced. A "pesticide" that can be inhaled is not a good idea. Ivermectin is a drop on method. One spot on its back between the shoulder blades and thats it really. Done. The good thing about that is where you drop on the ivermectin is where the budgies generally cant reach and it works by absorption through the skin. There is a version of ivermectin that goes in the drinking water too. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I use a Fido wash. Got it from a vet and it's good for birds as well as dogs. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted April 15, 2007 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2007 added to FAQ section Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Kaz ivermec, does that penetrate to the feathers and quills as well??? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Kaz ivermec, does that penetrate to the feathers and quills as well??? I dont know Neat :mellow: Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted September 20, 2008 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2008 You can get mite dust . That will cover the whole bird, feathers and all. Make sure it is made for birds. I actually have some red mite dust. Have never needed it though, but I will use it to dust my nest box. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted September 20, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Yeah I have the coopex ( sp) for when i was stupid and didn't wash branches before i added them to the Breeding avairy and got red mites GRRRRR it is great worked well ... I wasn't sure if it penetrates into the feather quill though? Link to comment
macka 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Where were the branches at,that they were iinfected with red mite.I finnd that a little hard to beleave,unless the chooks were nesting in the tree. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 Where were the branches at,that they were iinfected with red mite.I finnd that a little hard to beleave,unless the chookswere nesting in the tree. Neat has a poultry farm as her neighbour I think Macka. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted September 22, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Yep, The is a chook farm behind me about i dunno ( 1 normal house block away) ( i am on acres) and they back on to us. The branches i use are from gum trees that are up the back - Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Kaz ivermec, does that penetrate to the feathers and quills as well??? YES so a normal vet said Will confirm this next week Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted September 23, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Kaz ivermec, does that penetrate to the feathers and quills as well??? YES so a normal vet said Will confirm this next week My local bird dealer said it penetrates the feathers too - I am sorry but i don't see how this is possible Feathers are like our hair, no blood supply once grown I have some feather mites on my birds and moxidectin (oral pesticide) didn't kill the mites that only feed on feather. Edited September 23, 2008 by **Liv** Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Red mites (Dermanysuss) are carried by wild birds too. So any tree has the potential to have red mites. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted September 24, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted September 24, 2008 (edited) Ah uh - That is because feathers have a blood supply until they are molted out... Edited September 24, 2008 by Neat Link to comment
Chicknician 0 Posted April 21, 2012 Member ID: 7,220 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/03/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Maybe relive this thread... May I ask if using mite shampoo is okay??? I can't find any ivermectin here... the only thing I can get is a shampoo with active ingredients of "cypermethrin, piperonyl butoxide, D-limonene... Is this fine to use for Budgies???? My Yellow Dark Eyed Clear is infested with red mite... Link to comment
Flip-trainer 0 Posted April 21, 2012 Member ID: 6,947 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 393 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,625 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 12, 2016 Birthday: 16/04/1998 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I'm not sure if you can find it, but what i use is bird mite & lice spray from aristopet... but then again, u live in the Phillipines, and I have no idea of anythign there... Link to comment
Louise Johnson 0 Posted October 28, 2017 Member ID: 8,502 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 35 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/10/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 24/01/2007 at 11:13 PM, **KAZ** said: Parasitic Diseases Budgies with a crusty cere, feet and vent are usually infested with the Knemidokoptes mite. Most budgies with this condition are young (usually less than one year of age). These mites do not cause pruritis (itchiness), and cause a honeycomb type appearance to the skin and cere, upon close examination. Scrapings of the lesions or examination of the crusts in oil under the microscope will show the mites. The treatment of choice is ivermectin based upon careful dose calculation Dosage: 0.2 mg/kg PO, repeat in 10-14 day intervals until signs decrease. Although they do not appear to be very contagious, it is recommended that all birds kept in the same cage also be treated with ivermectin, either orally or topically. As with demodectic mange in dogs, this mite appears to be related to the immune status of the bird, and often the offspring of infested birds will develop Knemidokoptes, as well. Treatment should be repeated at two-week intervals until the bird is clinically normal. Long term infestation may result in permanently deformed beaks, which will require periodic shaping by an avian vet with a grinding tool and emery board. Mites do not live off the bird, so treating the cage is not necessary, but is recommended. Mites that occur in older birds usually indicate some underlying medical problem, such as hepatic lipidosis, diabetes mellitus or even tumors. Mites occasionally occur in other species of birds, rarely cockatiels. Red mites can occur in budgies and cockatiels. These mites are very contagious between birds of different species, and they suck blood. They are visible to the naked eye as tiny specks of red pepper. Red mites (Dermanyssus species) remain off the bird and climb on the host to take a blood meal. They can make the infested birds very nervous and irritated. They sometimes bite people when birds are absent. In addition to treating the birds with red mites, the entire cage and bird area must be thoroughly disinfected to prevent reinfestation. Treatment with oral ivermectin and topical 5% carbaryl, repeated weekly, is usually effective. I saw one case involving a military macaw that had a severe infestation with red mites, and the poor baby bird had multiple feather cysts caused by the damage from the mites. Feather mites can occur on budgies, and two species have been described to infest budgies. These mites, however, are not commonly encountered. Feather and quill mites can be found (rarely) on cockatiel feathers (usually primary and secondary remiges). Many budgie and 'tiel owners believe that they must use some sort of protection against mites, which can be hung on the outside of the cage, but these are ineffective and potentially dangerous, as the fumes can cause liver damage and perhaps cancer if inhaled for a long period of time. Mite protectors usually have mothballs (paradichlorobenzene) as the active ingredient. If a budgie does not have mites, a mite protector is not necessary to prevent infestation. If a budgie does have an external parasite, it is best to seek the expert advice of an avian veterinarian who can diagnose the exact problem and prescribe the correct medication to treat it at the proper intervals. -------------------- Can you help please my budgie has this growth thing on him he is currently being treated for burrowing mites with Avimec (his had 2 doses)and triple c the growth has come off but he’s vomiting still and his poop is looking a little grey is this from the mites or could it be something else Link to comment
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