Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Well some of you know that I removed my two budgies Isis and Arkady from the main cage and put them into a breeding cage. Well the two budgies left in the flight cage seem like they are trying to make babies. I don't really want them to as the hen is almost 5 years old. She is spending all her time running in the exercise wheel, but I have a suspicion that she us is trying to use it as a nest (all though I don't know how she would prevent her eggs from rolling off of it), she sits in it and the male sits out side of it and feeds her in it. I don't know what to do as I think she is "pregnant" with an egg as her stomach is swollen and her vent is showing. What should I do? She is obviously keen on breeding. Edited January 7, 2007 by Sailorwolf Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2006 well I would remove the wheel and if you want her to lay the eggs and have the babies give them the proper material (nesting box, nutrition etc) that would be my suggestion. If you don't want her to lay eggs remove the wheel she may lay a couple but will probably stop. Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well she has been trying to have babies for quite awhile now, making nests in all sorts of weird locations. I decided that I would rather have her laying an egg somewhere comfortable than on the cage floor where she is uncomfortable and the egg will fall through the grate and she'll just continue to lay more and more and become exhausted. So I gave her a nesting box and she went straight in there. The decision was not made lightly. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2006 keep us updated and let us know how it goes Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thanks. That means a lot to me. Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) I think at 4 she will probably be okay having a clutch. If she is in good condition and good health, the fact that she is so primed to breed speaks loudly. Are you worried only because of her age or something else? 4 isn't necessarily that old for a budgie. I think the age cutoff of 3 or 4 probably pertains more to show budgies that spend their lives as breeders. I would think a bird that has produced two clutches every season to be in more need of a rest after a few years of that, whereas a healthy bird that has never bred, or only had a clutch or two would not have the same level of nutrient depletion. My oldest hen is about 5, and because she has had only two clutches, and that was almost 3 years ago (my how time flies!!) if she were bonded to a male and was very keen on eggs I would not worry about her because of her age. But I know what kind of condition she is in, what kind of mother she was, well...I just "know" my bird. She has not slowed down any since I brought her home over 4 years ago. She regularly goes for flies around the room, has a good appetite, great feather condition, etc. You are the only one who can sit back, look, and make an honest determination about your hen. And knowing what I do about you from your posts, I believe you have already done that. I hope everything goes well. I am looking forward to updates too. Edited November 18, 2006 by Rainbow Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Yes I was worried because of her age. Thank you for the support. I would rather she did it comfortably than on a cold cage floor. She is so funny. She immediately went into the nest box and started renovating. Pulling out the wood shavings piece by piece. And Izzy is being a very good mate, he is feeding her and everything. How long do you think until an egg will appear? As her vent is swollen and it's been like that for a few days. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Not sure when the egg will pop maybe a couple more days? Make sure you number then so you know when they are estimated to hatch. I believe Nerwen uses non-toxic marker. Look forward to seeing bubs. Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Yeah I'm gonna use a pencil. She's a double factor spangle, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing her babies. Not to mention the spangle, but you just don't know what colour combinations she carries. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Spangle is such a gorgeous coloring. Can you post the parents? :bluebudgie: Link to comment
birdluv 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Member ID: 2,137 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,842 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,670 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 30, 2018 Birthday: 06/04/1978 Share Posted November 19, 2006 l would also like to see pics of the parents too :bluebudgie: Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Well this is Saffron, the soon to be mother: Double factor spangle And this is Izzy, the soon to be father: Normal sky blue :ausb: When he had his wings clipped: Here they are together: And with the other two: Saffy has completely cleared out the nest box now, she doesn't like wood shavings. I picked up and extra iodine and calcium block and a cuttle fish bone for them today. :bluebudgie: I need to get some more recent and less blurrier pictures. Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Well she laid her first egg today!!! Yay. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yeah I'm gonna use a pencil.She's a double factor spangle, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to seeing her babies. Not to mention the spangle, but you just don't know what colour combinations she carries. It will be interesting you will get 100% single factor spangles but we will see if she is carrying the blue gene at all. It will be interesting and of course any recessive genes that they could both the hiding that are the same. Congrats on the first egg. Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted November 21, 2006 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted November 21, 2006 congratulations on the egg. Glad to hear she is okay. DOn't worry about the shavings for now at the start they act as a "making this hole my nest" sort of thing. When the bubs hatch add some more every few days to help clump with the poops. Sounds like she is going to be fine. Is she looking after the egg now or not? also pencil is fine to use but can be hard to read later, and yes I use no-toxic, water based markers. Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 23, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 She laid her second egg yesterday and it looks like she is gonna lay one tomorrow. She is looking after them. She spends most of the day in the nest box and has rolled both eggs into the middle of the concave. I decided not to mark them as I'm scared of dropping them or something. They look so delicate. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 23, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2006 how wonderful, I don't blame you I would probably be scared to death too . Keep us updated. Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted November 23, 2006 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted November 23, 2006 How exciting! I never marked the eggs either, but you can tell pretty much what order they were laid by when they hatch. Both of my clutches had a 4 day period in the middle of hatching where a baby should have hatched but didn't. The third egg each time didn't hatch, and the first didn't either, as the babies started hatching at day 20 instead of day 18. Just mark on your calendar when they are laid and when they hatch, and you will be able to tell. Please keep us updated! Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Well she has laid 3 eggs so far. She is due to lay another tomorrow. She is a really good mummy and started incubating them straight away and is hardly ever off the nest. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2006 wonderful news off topic I have been reading your other post too - keeping my fingers crossed. Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 4th egg today! Yay. thankyou Lovey. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2006 awesome - your welcome I can't wait to see the bubs Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2006 how are they doing? Link to comment
Sailorwolf 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Member ID: 1,536 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,753 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 16,870 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 6 eggs so far. Yay! The other pair of budgies are starting to clean out their nest box now too, so they are starting now. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2006 keep us updated if you have picture post we would love to see them. Link to comment
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