Heathrow 0 Posted June 19, 2009 Member ID: 4,396 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,810 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 21, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1974 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I use wood shavings in my Flights now, have for a few years. Gets changed about every 6 weeks. Previously i used Sand like Kaz mentioned, but had some disease problems from bacteria in sand. Henry George gave a lecture at the Caloundra Nationals on exactly same thing, any earthen product is an excellent source of bad bacteria. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 I use wood shavings in my Flights now, have for a few years. Gets changed about every 6 weeks. Previously i used Sand like Kaz mentioned, but had some disease problems from bacteria in sand. Henry George gave a lecture at the Caloundra Nationals on exactly same thing, any earthen product is an excellent source of bad bacteria. Yes he had the sand examined and it was found to have bacteria. He through the whole lot out. He now has shavings in the breeding cabinets and only tiles in the flights. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Curious....has tests been done on the wood shavings too for bacteria ? Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 Good question... The answer would be no but can wood shaving carry bacteria? The sand carries dead animals (sea creatures, shells and such) when it becomes wet the bacteria can occur. This was the touble with Henry's. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I have the sterilised white sand used for childrens playgrounds and sandpits in my flights and have had no issues. But it doesnt get wet either. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted June 20, 2009 Now that's a good idea. Link to comment
mattdog2 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 5,243 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2010 Birthday: 13/08/1992 Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) shavings have problems in different ways, it effects ground dweller's the most 2 months back, i had a problem with my quails, they all died of respiratory problem's and such, then i found out that shavings contain this fungal bacteria infection that makes bird's very ill, eventually it was too late before i could save the quail. turned out the shaving fumes effected the breathing problems and killed the quail. Edited June 20, 2009 by mattdog2 Link to comment
macka 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Use kitty litter. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Use kitty litter. I know a few show breeders who use kitty litter in the flights :emoticon112: Link to comment
studiobird 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,790 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 42 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 340 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 11, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I know it is not birds, but in the Rat and Mouse club we do not recommend shavings for cages or nesting (or show tanks) because they contain phenols that are really strong - especially for new born sensitive respiratory systems. In rats it can often cause Mycoplasma Pulmosis to develop early, and secondary infections are then given a chance to take hold. We use recycled paper cat litter. Link to comment
defieldsfamily 0 Posted February 22, 2010 Member ID: 5,648 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 327 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,400 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 13, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I just finished reading through this very long thread and WOW! That is quite an amazing set-up!! I'm hoping to build my aviary this spring with my 1 year old son's help although he's now involved with his first "serious" girlfriend so I might be building it alone! Daz...how wide are each of your three flights? And, speaking as a "pet type budgie only in cages in the house" sort of budgie enthusiast I noticed that the larger aviaries like yours often don't have toys or any other entertainment for the birds...do they just keep each other entertained? Also, an absence of real tree branches and only same sized dowling perches. I have always read about the importance of varied perches for the well being of little bird feet....is this a fallacy? I absolutely LOVE your set up...I could only dream of something so awesome! Thanks for sharing your journey through building it. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 22, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I noticed that the larger aviaries like yours often don't have toys or any other entertainment for the birds...do they just keep each other entertained? Some of us provide "toys" not always the pet budgie cage type toys but other similar things to amuse the birds. I notice some show breeders over here werent using toys so I have made swings and such and given to them. I did notice they were in use when I visited too Link to comment
defieldsfamily 0 Posted February 23, 2010 Member ID: 5,648 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 327 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,400 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 13, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I notice some show breeders over here werent using toys so I have made swings and such and given to them. I did notice they were in use when I visited too That's so sweet of you KAZ Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted March 2, 2010 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 I do add Tree Branches from time to time Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted March 3, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted March 3, 2010 What other things would you change now that you've had a couple of years to think about it Daz? Any plans for building larger... I remember you had problems with the council... do they still come around for checks? Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted March 3, 2010 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 I would have liked to have gone to at least 6 metes by 3meters.. this one was 4.5m x 3m. That is on this block of land. I would have done the electrical different...I would have put in a PLC (ccomputer) to control the lighting and fan. But except for that, not much. The cages will do for a few more years but I have a new plan when they wear out. The layout suits me, the birds and my life style. Link to comment
Lozza 0 Posted June 26, 2010 Member ID: 1,812 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 69 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 595 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 19, 2012 Birthday: 09/09/1992 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Hi Daz, what brand/type of paint do you use to paint the breeding cabinets of yours? I like the look of them Cheers lozza Link to comment
Heathrow 0 Posted June 27, 2010 Member ID: 4,396 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,810 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 21, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1974 Share Posted June 27, 2010 lozza - i think you will find the breeding cabinets are made from melamine coated board Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Hi Daz, what brand/type of paint do you use to paint the breeding cabinets of yours? I like the look of them Cheers lozza Lozza the breeding cabinets are Melamine so are not painted. The walls are white plastic coated masonite. So there are no painting in the shed. Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted November 3, 2010 any think new daz any new updates ?? Link to comment
Nic Grant 0 Posted November 7, 2010 Member ID: 6,147 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 150 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 21, 2012 Birthday: 20/03/1997 Share Posted November 7, 2010 well done daz looking great keep up the good work Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 well done daz looking great keep up the good work Thanks Nic Link to comment
splat 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Nice to see you here Daz, I was wondering where you were. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 Nice to see you here Daz, I was wondering where you were. Thanks Splat. I had some trouble with a couple of breeders. Seems the Cattle Property was more inportant. I basically took a year off. But now i'm back Link to comment
splat 0 Posted July 31, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It is really good that you are back Daz because I have really missed you. So if you had the year off does that mean you haven't bred many birds then. Link to comment
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