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Thanks and sorry about the limited information, I will post a picture but I believe it looks correct. Though would love your input

I have gone through a couple of forum posts on breeding. I improved diet well before starting to pair them, placed in a suitable pen. But after three weeks nothing........ am I too quick to judge. both birds are about 12 months old and its their first time. I will take any advise on offer

Hilly love your train of thought on this, take poultry. There are good examples based of Old English Game having both Oxford and Carlisle breeds from one single ancestor. Then this is further divided into Bantam and Large varities. Looking at their website its hard to make a informed judgement as being just miniature surely size will be the single largest feature change. This idea needs to re examine standards relating to body and head, it would be good to get feedback from a breeder who was competing sub 1980 as this is a vastly different bird to today and i believe has a more Australian feel to it whilst having mutations in colour and size as not to be seen as a Bush Buudgie.....

Thanks

I looked at the site and I agree, I feel the head is still to prominant but i guess if its just a miniature then the large bird traits will remain. Maybe bush budgie would be more apt or old school.......lol

The Australian Birdkeeper on sale at newsagents or subscription, do they have web site

Thanks for the information, on size that would be a major issue as he bred closer to the older size standard and comparisons to the current show budgies is remarkable. As to why he kept breeding in line with older birds,I think he was trying to capture the same perfection he saw by breeders when he was a young man. He kept alot of his notes on paper copied from discussions from top breeders long since past, he did once remark that the bird that he saw as a child at the show in Melbourne(HE NEVER STATED WHCH ONE LOL) was a true Australian budgie and had not given way to the more English style and size requirement, he did call them flying horses ( He passed at ninety 93, so being sensitive about words choosen about the new standard were never high on his list. As to why he dropped out I believe in the late eighties though he would never admit it his eyesight began to fade seriuosly and I suspect he knew many of his birds by touch, as I remember he pointed out many birds exceptional features after running a light finger over, to a colour standard I dont know. He told me that if I ever wanted to go into budgies that the writings of a John Scoble should be read and kept close, I have his copy of The Complete Book of Budgerigars second reprint 1982. As to the ninties changes with no disrespect to any person or body, I like the birds from a earlier date standard but being a poultry fancer and shower I understand the world moves on. Nice chatting As to showing and regs I am used to the rules from poultry etc, though this my be abit deeper continuing on a life body of work.

lol on the number of birds sorry i have abroken arm, 8 is the total......typo....

Before any one states the obvious I understand there is a national standard and it is based on developing a specific bird. A larger bird with increased feather base and a spectacular head. I have entered into the breeding to replicate a bird more consistsnt with the standard from Australia circa 1935, 1949. I know again standards are developed to reproduce and hilight aspects of a bird as outlined by the governing body. Which develops the competition and the animal standard. These are birds are from a deceased relatives estate and would like to keep the shape and form. So my question would be is there a competition section to show such a bird. Many old timers recognised their type immeadtely as they knew the breeder, less informed called them pets. There seem to be alot of articles talking about such birds but I can only find a single standard can they be shown, as I woud love to carry on the traddition with current stock. If i have used words in there common term meaning forgive me as its me second post.

Before any one states the obvious I understand there is a national standard and it is based on developing a specific bird. A larger bird with increased feather base and a spectacular head. I have entered into the breeding to replicate a bird more consistsnt with the standard from Australia circa 1935, 1949. I know again standards are developed to reproduce and hilight aspects of a bird as outlined by the governing body. Which develops the competition and the animal standard. These are birds are from a deceased relatives estate and would like to keep the shape and form. So my question would be is there a competition section to show such a bird. Many old timers recognised their type immeadtely as they knew the breeder, less informed called them pets. There seem to be alot of articles talking about such birds but I can only find a single standard can they be shown, as I woud love to carry on the traddition with current stock. If i have used words in there common term meaning forgive me as its me second post.

Hello to one and all.......I have lots of questions but will post in the appropriate boards. Look forward to chatting to you all