ZIGZAGOON
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I absolutely love Texas Clearbody budgies.
So this is my beautiful Dante.
Gorgeous bird, Violet??
A couple more of mine:
Just a sky blue I believe,
I can't see any violet, but since I'm new I'm still learning how to tell the difference between the two colours.
The breeder said he was sky blue.
And I saw these photos of yours on another thread,
I am absolutely jealous Squeak!
They're absolutely beautiful.
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I absolutely love Texas Clearbody budgies.
So this is my beautiful Dante.
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I know it makes no difference now.. But when I brought my 8 new birds they were from the one kindi cage (one had Scaly he was quarantined straight away, now fine) and I just put the same birds in my kindi cage is this okay??
If you are asking whether it's okay to quarantine them all together, since you bought them all from the same place, then, yes. (If one of the bunch had scaley face, you should have treated them all for it, just in case more of them had it but it didn't show up yet.)
My male and female that I already had (breeding at the moment) have never even been near them.
When they finish breeding and everything will they be okay to go in with the other 8 birds, in the aviary when it warms up a little?? I think the usual advice is to give the parents a little rest before putting them back in the aviary. But it sounds like quarantine will be well and truly over by then, so as long as no problems came up (and the scaley face is all gone) then fine.
These are good quarantine questions, Jack, since we seem to have hijacked this thread into a quarantine topic.
And helpful for other people to know. One other thing- when you were done using your kindi cage for a quarantine cage, did you disinfect it thoroughly, so it will be safe for use as a kindi cage again?What sort of disinfectants can you use?
I wouldn't feel safe using a bleach to thoroughly clean my cages down.
I'd say you'd have different products in the US compared to the products we have in australia, but using general ingredients that they'd have in common.
Would eucalyptus oil or something be better seeing as it's natural?
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Can't wait to see photos of the chicks from the grey cock x yellow faced grey hen!
And I like the shed set up you have.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did it cost you to get something like that set up?
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They're absolutely gorgeous!
You must be proud.
I especially love Melon, Elle and Squeaker.
They're just beautiful.
I'd have trouble telling them all apart. c:
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After finding some gorgeous images by Trieste Visier, I've been inspired to get out my Nikon to start some photoshoots of my 3 budgies.
If you've got some lovely snaps of your beloveds to show off, please don't hesitate to post.
Inspiration would be greatly appreciated!
I'd love to see what you guys have come up with in the past.
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Who was the breeder Zig? Because a breeder told me the same thing about quarantine and sold me two sick birds. All of my flock died except for Marigold.
DO NOT name the breeder on here. If you do, you are leaving yourself open to possible defamation charges. Have your conversation in a pm if you like, but DO NOT publicly state the name.
Ratzy, I think you need to be careful what you ask for on here.
I was just about to say, I'd prefer not to disclose their name.
Because I'm not blaming them.
I'd just prefer to do the right thing next time by my birds.
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What l do when l travel with my birds for 5 hours. I usually place a towel over the cage. So they are not stressed out. Also, l place a little bit of millet seeds in the cage too.
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oops, l just noticed this was posted last week.
I hope everything turned out fine
I was able to borrow my boyfriend's cage, then a wooden box.
They travelled just fine
No stress at all when I got them home, they did really well!
But thank you
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Wow, as I have read through this, many thoughts have run through my mind. So hard to be on the other side of the world and come in as an afterthought!
First of all, I'd like to thank Zigzagoon for being patient while we use his topic as a necessary medium for educating people about quarantine. We need to talk about it over and over and over, because unfortunately, there are too many bird sellers who just keep perpetuating their buyers' lack of knowledge about it. Ive NEVER NEVER NEVER been told by any pet store to quarantine ANY of the birds I've bought. And obviously, Zig was misinformed by even a private breeder!
Secondly, I'd like to point out another aspect of quarantine that I didn't see the rest of you cover. It's also the STRESS of bringing a budgie to a new home, and the STRESS that your old birds experience when you give them a stranger to live with, that could cause them to become ill.
GB pointed out that each bird could be happily living with it's own familiar germs, that it is immune to. Then they could swap germs, and each catch the illness that the other carried. But what also can happen is that the stress they experience when they move in together can lower their immunities so that they will each be susceptible to their OWN germs, that they were already used to, but are no longer able to fight off.
So the quarantine period allows you to see if stress brings anything bad out in the new bird. Unfortunately, your old birds won't become stressed until after quarantine, when you introduce the new bird, so there will always be a slight risk. But since it is their own home, their stress will be less, and if you're as reasonably sure as you can be that the new bird is healthy, it's a risk we pretty much all have to take at some point.
This is why a quarantine period at someone elses house is no quarantine at all. The new bird will still be stressed when it joins your household.
One last thing. A dishonest breeder might not want to admit that his or her birds might carry germs, so to make a sale, they would tell a buyer that the birds are all healthy, and that quarantine is not necessary! To give the benefit of a doubt, maybe such a breeder is just plain ignorant. But please! Do they really think they have the world's first sterile flock of budgies?
OOPS! After I posted, I just noticed that Zig is female. Sorry, Zig!
Thanks Finnie, and haha yeah, I'm a female, but no problem!
And as far as me being patient, it's really no trouble at all.
You're all teaching me a really important lesson so I'm more than happy to have my thread hijacked! :mallet:
It's taught me a lot really.
And I'm not laying blame towards the breeder at all to be honest.
Should really be blaming my own naiveness because I really should have looked into this first.
But I know now, so when I get my next 2 hens I know the proper procedures to take and why it's necessary.
As I do want to later get into breeding and showing my own budgies, I really do need to learn these important things.
And by you guys helping me and educating me, I can do it the responsible and safe way.
So if my thread being hijacked helps anyone else, then great!
I'm glad.And for an update, my budgies are still seem to be healthy and well, 2 of them currently chasing with each other trying to each have a turn with the bell I gave them.
And the Texas clear body happily sitting on my shoulder chirping away. :question:
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The point to make is..........
A budgie can live quite happily carrying its own set of internal "bugs". Another budgie can do the same. Its when they meet that ones mutation or variety of "bugs"does not go with the others that sickness and illness and deaths occur. Budgies can carry the nastiest of diseases in particular psittacosis.........a budgie can be a carrier and not show symptoms. Once it meets another budgie the other budgie can contract it and within a week to ten days have full blown symptomatic psittacosis and go down with runny eyes and poopy bottom and be dead in 24 hours of showing symptoms
No breeder with the right amount of knowledge of diseases and how they work would recommend a bird does not go through a quarantine process. It protects both sides of the birds introduced. The breeder who said that was being either very naive, very stupid or a little of both.
I understand that,
After looking through other threads about the quarantining, I definitely now have a better understanding.
I have monitored them the whole time they've been in together.
No change so far.
I'm going to get in touch with my vet so I can look into buying some of the products for quarantining, and some more cages to separate my birds and be more responsible this time.
Again, thank you for your advice.
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I did ask the Bendigo breeder about any sicknesses or bugs they may give to my house budgie,
and she said they'd be fine.
And the budgie I already had is very healthy and free of any ailments, so I did look into it a little.
But next time I'll be a bit more careful, thanks KAZ for bringing this to my attention.
I appreciate it a lot.
There's still a lot I need to learn.
I did learn my lesson when I was around 10 and I gave greens that the family dog had urinated on and I didn't know and I fed it to my previous bird, so I now wash all greens thoroughly and make sure I don't get any greens that come from outside, close around the property.
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Birds feed each other as a sign of bonding, and also to help supply the female with food for her chicks in the early ages of nesting.
Males often bond with each other, even mate with each other. It is nothing to worry about though, they are just showing that they are good friends
Ah excellent,
so if it's too busy bonding with the other one, he won't show the albino one any affection?
I guess this doesn't surprise me too much, he was completely inlove with his mirror until I took it off him too weeks ago so he wouldn't be aggressive when I introduced them all to each other.
He's been a single bird for a long time.
If I was to add a hen to the older one, and took the other two away, would he bond with her or would he just be more likely to pine for the 3 year old?
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(3 year old on the left, 7 year old on the right)
Hey guys,
So I finally got my 2 new budgies.
One being an albino male (a few months old), and the other a Texas clear body male (3 years old).
I already have a normal budgie (7 years old) and I decided to introduce the new ones to my older budgie.
The older budgie has no interest in the young one, but has REALLY taken to the 3 year old one.
Me and my boyfriend have discovered my 7 year old one regurgitates its food up to feed it to the 3 year old one and it's happy to eat it.
Why is this?
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Get yourself a small cage, or a small wooden travel box or buy a cheap plastic mouse cage ( small ) for the trip. I think the cardboard boxes are stressful places to be so I feel sure two hours would be far too much for the bird in one of those.
Borrow something better if you cant buy something.
Anything you buy can be used in the future for a travel box to the vets for instance.
Ah this is an excellent idea!
I wouldn't have thought of the small mouse cage.
Thank you so much!
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Hey guys!
As I couldn't find what I was looking for I've come to ask you guys for some help and advice.
I'm planning to get a new young budgie in the next couple of days, but I'm working,
This means I can't exactly take a cage to work, and I don't have my drivers license yet so I can't just keep it in the car.
To get to work I commute on a shuttle and that's 50km to work.
The budgie will have to be in a small cardboard box with breathing holes for about 2 hours and will have to travel that distance with me in the box on that noisy shuttle bus.
Is this really safe for the budgie?
I'm scared of it dying from trauma.
So if anyone could give me some advice on how to make this journey a little more comfortable for the little guy,
or even if it is safe at all to do this.
Thanks very much.
I'm glad.
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Ah okay!
So it is safe then, brilliant, I plan on cleaning out an old cage I have so I can use that one for quarantining when I get my 2 hens.
And even if it was rehijacked it wouldn't phase me
All about the learning experience Finnie! hahaha