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Well my girl is going so well I have put her in the kindy cage with 2 other chicks, the cage is inside so I can keep a close eye on her..... :sadsorry:

Oh Maesie, I'm so sorry..... :gday: I have tears in my eyes typing this because you both went through an incredable journey together...she had such a good life thanks to you.. :emoticon112: Rest in peace sweet Lucia xx

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How is your girl this morning Kaz?? My girl is going well.... I chickened out with the crop needle :nest: , I just think I'm going to do it wrong and hurt her. She is drinking the meds in the water so I know she is getting some, I might be braver later, I will let you know...

Can you get a close up picture?

Hi Adi and welcome to the forum... :nest:

A picture of my girl tonight....she is perching more each day!!!! Hopefully Kaz it's a good omen!!! Thanks Dave and Nubbly, I know I have learned heaps from this. Rip, he is a very nice gentle man.....I had an appointment the following day with another avian vet but he squeezed me in earlier which I was very greatful for, I will see him again for sure :nest:

That fantastic news Kaz....I'm really pleased she is improving.... :nest:

Awwwwwwwwwwww

I don't know whether to laugh or cry !!!!!!!!!!!

She is perching !!!!

No improvement....

Thank you Splat........me too....

Just got back from the Vet, I got an appointment with Terry Martin and he was really good, wow.....there is a big difference between an avian vet and a normal vet (any vets reading this I am saying this with the utmost respect to you all).....at last I know how to crop feed!! His diagnosis was.....either nerve damage, or calcium definincy...... There are no more eggs that he can feel , she has good grip with her legs and no fractures...... If it's nerve damage she is in no pain and it can correct itself with time, if it's calcium definincy she is not using her legs due to weakness... I crop fed her in the surgery "calcium sandoz" and I need to crop feed this again on Sunday, she is eating and is quite bright so I don't need to crop feed at this stage, once she gets her strength back she should start perching. We dicussed the importance of calcium with breeding birds and I feel like I have learned lots..... I feel really bad that my birds are going through this due to my lack of experience and knowledge but looking on the flipside I now know the importance of it and how to supplement the diet with certain foods and use supplements before breeding, and crop feeding, I was so excited to learn this procedure..... Once again I have learned the hard way, but I feel a lot more confident now due to my experience. I will phone the vet if there is no marked improvement by Monday, I will keep you posted for those that are interested.... Thank you Kaz, you knew what was wrong and advised the calcivet prior to seeing the vet, I really think that is the issue due to the bad leg issues I've had with my chicks this year......thanks for caring and giving good advice as allways...

Or you can buy Invomec online http://cgi.ebay.com.au/IVOMEC-Pour-On-Catt...=item41527563c5 Thanks Rachelm...I did'nt know you could buy it online .....

She has passed the egg...but still no use of her legs......just going to call the Vet now and see if I can get in earlier....

Hi and welcome,.... You need to get Ivermectin from your Vet, one drop on the back of the neck is all it takes....you will need a consultation though....

Thanks Kaz..... I put them in a smaller aviary (not a cage though) for a week or so after, I have my main aviary, but she was in a smaller aviary with 2 other hens that have finished breeding for now as well.... should I put them in a seperate smaller cage?? okay..the calcivet and heat lamp til Thursday or tomorrow afternoon with any luck.....and yes I will ask about the crop feeding, it's been on the agenda for a while but I left it too long I guess.....fingers crossed I do end up at the vets....

No I don't yet Kaz....but I tried her and she had a bit off the spoon.... On feeling her I now think I can feel an egg..?? What can I do??

I came home about an hour ago and checked my big aviary and small avairy.... My hen (that has just finished 2 clutches and started laying again which I removed the eggs on the weekend and put her in the small aviary for a week or so with a few other hens).....was lying on the cold cement, I got her out straight away and put her in a small cage with a heat lamp, seed and water..... I have felt to see if she is eggbound and it doesn't seem like it, there has not been a fight that I can see, no blood on any birds.... she is not using her legs at all, breathing quite hard, she has eaten a small bit of seed and had some water.....I can't get to the vet now til Thursday I will call tomorrow for an appointment, what else should I do between now and then?

Some people choose not to do so. some people should no better :mallet: s-q were are on a public fourm trying our best to teach people to do the best things for not only their birds but them also quarantine is not about bills birds are healthy so im not going to quarinteen its as kaz stated ,.. timmy may be very healthy but be a carrier of paraciciosses ( still cant spell or say that one )and tammy,buck n fred may all be holders of a low canker count bringing these four birds together could be the death of timmy from canker as hes not amun to it as the others are being in their environment for so long it does not cause problem as they are not under stress and jimmy for the other three birds is a true death sentence as as soon as he sheds with molt or starts to feed the other birds hes going to pass on his illness that he has harbored since a young chick maybe even from nest age quarantine is very important and as a up and coming show breeder and a young person whom wishes to take part and do their best to join in and try and help others out and edgicate them on birds when its clear with alot of things you write you yourself lack the needed knowledge in most areas im going to have to say i think you need to be very careful of what you say on here you may choose not to quarantine and others may be with them but regardless were here to teach people the proper way to care for and introduce their birds to each other so that they have the choise and total understanding of the consequences they may face if they neglect to do so so from me quarantine is a very necessary important role of being a responsible bird owner and for record i lack knowledge myself at times so im not having a go at your imput just be awear you may have people whom listen to you alot more than you would imagined it is a world wide forum after all people do have favorites to have advice from Well said GB..... I totally agree, and I think we all have a duty of care in regards to new memebers...... And welcome zigzagoon .... :question:

Great pictures Nubbly...

PLease don't use any medication that is not intended for birds.I'm sorry I don't have enough experience to advise you what to do in this situation, but I would not give any meds at this stage.If you have a lamp with a normal globe you need to bring them indoors if they are not already and turn the lamp on close to the cage (without the shade) cover them on all sides except where the lamp is and keep it quiet....Make sure they have seed and water.A more experienced member will be on at some stage today and advise with more knowledge..Good luck mate... Sorry just read that you can use the meds for birds, but don't self diagnose for now....

:rip: I'm so sorry Kaz.....That is so not fair, she fought so hard.... R.I.P Samara.... :sad: