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  1. Slate and Ino are non-allelic in nature. The recombinant frequency of these two loci is 10%.
  2. It is quite normal for Opalines to show this in the secondary and main tail feathers but not usually to this extreme. K&M your Opaline is quite normal. The white patch in wing is what is termed a 'wing mirror'. It is a typical feature of Opalines. In Australian Parrots their is an under-wing stripe. Whent the Opaline mutation is present in the Australian parrots the under-wing stripe is extended to the first primary flights in such a way it is visable on the top-side of the wing.
  3. Welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your stay. Sorry, but I couldn't read the whole lot right through. I really hate it when people don't break up their writings into paragraphs. No offense, it's just one of those things that bug me. Quakers, I love them but can't have them in Western Australia.
  4. This bird was hashed out on another forum to the conclusion it was most likely a Dutch Pied with a small amount of frosting evident. Recessive Pieds are what is classed as an anti-dimorphic pied mutation which basically mean that the areas that show the sexual features are altered, i.e. the cere. If a non anti-dimorphic bird is in combination with a anti-dimorphic one the latter will dominate in regards sexual features. As I have said many times, with dominant pieds the iris rings can be 'pied out' like any other part of the bird including the cere, feet and even beak on rare occasions. Kas your dom pied should have either been reclassed or disqualified as it did not meet the requirement for the class.
  5. At this point the chick is looking like a spangle with a head spot.
  6. What also happens is that breeders don't always keep accurate records and don't always record everything. It is possible the cock bird was bred from a normal bird that was split but because the breeder couldn't see it and/or is one of the aformentioned believes the bird is not split. Persoanlly any cock I get I always assume it to be split for Cinnamon and Opaline.
  7. The bird is definately a Dominant Pied GF Spangle, that much is sure. As for the Greywing.....he has far to bright a body colour and cheek patch for the Greywing. I am not convinced by the pics that it is any Greywing at all. Spangle markings can vary considerably from quite pale to heavily marked like the other in the photo.
  8. For those in WA the Pinjarra Picnic Races are on today. First race is at 12.30pm. There is lots to do for the rugrats and it is gonna be a great day out.

  9. That be him. I got those photos but didn't have the time to scan and upload. I also have photos of two of his roan daughters called Odd Colours and Slip Catch. On Monday I went down to Larkhill Trials to catch up with the trainer of Slip Catch's daughter, Lavender fields, who is a roan also. Got a few nice pics of her and will going down to the property to get some more pics of her before she heads back to the owner as she ain't gonna make a very good racehorse. I will be cathing up with the breeder and hope to get more photos of Catch A Bird and his daughters. That forum discussion states that Catch A Bird was the only brindle TB which after his DNA typing was proven to be incorrect and Brindle horses have a different hair growth in the bridle area and Catch A Bird did not have that. 'Birdcatcher Spots' have nothing to do with brindle inheritance. The TB studbook does not allow for odd coloured horses and in fact Lavender Fields is listed as bay making it very hard to track back with these things. One has to reply on extra info written elsewhere.
  10. Technically it is a halfsider. Another term in Chimera. The name halfsider should really be dropped as by reference it gives the person a visual image of a bird that is delineated down the centre and is different on each side. Chimeras are genetically all the same but the visual component will vary. Genetically this bird is Spangle and Greywing but the colour is another issue. Phenotypically he is Green and Blue with a Grey factor on the green section. The bird was more then likely going to be a Grey Green split for Blue but then "glitch" as nubbs puts it occoured causing the blue to be visual rather than hidden. If the bird is a true Chimera it will contain both sets of chromosomes. Only way to know is by breedig or DNA typing. DNA typing unfortunately is not an option as the genenome needs to be mapped first in order to know where to find the particular sequences your looking for. An good example of a Chimera can be found in the Western Australian Thoroughbred (TB) racing industry. A stallion called Catch A Bird was born with the most unusal markings and it was always thought he was a brindle with what was called "Birdcatcher Spots". The spots vary enormously from just a few to so many that they join to look like stripes. This stallion stood at stud and produced 4 Roans, the only time roans have appeared in TB's. Roan is a dominant gene in horse and so it was a bit of a pickle as where it had orignated from as the stallion was a bay. Many years down the track he was DNA typed and found to have two sets of chromosomes. So he can produce bays in his image or he can produce roans. He has never passed on his spots however.
  11. Don't forget people what you see is not the real thing in a photo. Ratzy did you use a flash? Looks like you did. This will alter the colour since colour produced in parrot feathers is in part cause by constructive interference by the electromagnectic spectrum.
  12. Is it anything like an ioniser.
  13. I agree with GB. The tail in that photo of the sky blue looks quite normal.
  14. Not likely Squeak due the anti-dimorphic nature of the recessive side of the combination. The pinkish cere can still be a Dominant Pied it is just that the pied gene has acted in that location and not allowed the usuall development of the blue colour.
  15. I like to buy from I can personally see or a trusted representative. Buying from photos, well one can enhance anything in a photo. As for BRASEA setting up a site for this. Sorry but I don't even like there current website. It is so 'dated' and amatuerish in its look and content that it just does not give an air of professionalism for my tastes.
  16. The problem with simplifying things is that you run the risk of introducting incorrect terminology which leads to further inconsistencies and confusion down the track. The use of the term 'reverse' is one such problem. Take a normal feather feather and a spangle feather, put them side by side, where can you see the black striation has been been reversed. It has not. Opaline only affects the spangle feather in so much that the centre section that would normally show black or in some normals it will be a bluish black or greenish black will be missings and is then replaced by the body colour blue or green. The melanin is reduced because of the spangle effect. Jim Hutton has made the same mistake as everybody else by saying the markings are reversed. Keep in mind few articles are written in which the content is the author own observations but rather regurgitated from other writings without thought as to the validity of the information. It is easy to write articles and/or books. You don't need a degree. You don't even need to be right!
  17. It is an Opaline Spangle. Lets try and clear up a myth here. The Spangle markings are NOT reversed as is written and subsequently passed on as fact by others. The spangle markings are close to the edge of the feather. There is still a yellow or white edge. The melanin present is reduced to leave line of varying degrees of thickness and depth of colour. In fact the Spangle mutation can be classed as a type of pied. The spangle gene does not reverse the Oplaine marking either. The Opaline effect is were it should be, it is just more evident due to the lack of markings.
  18. Guess it comes down to what ever it takes to sell an object. I have seen changes in plants over the years. A new hybrid is developed and floods the market but when it eventually dies down and sales decrease they do a rename or resurrect an old but obscure name.
  19. You have a catfish. I would have to consult my fish books for which type. My memory for aqaurium fish is not as good as it once was since I have been out of them for so many years. Why it was labelled a Bull Shark well maybe a question for the store owner.
  20. Bull Shark. A minature one at that. Are you talking a real Bull Shark? One of the most dangerous and highly aggressive sharks in the sea. They are so quick to anger they make a White Pointer look like a puppy.
  21. Need clearer pics but it looks like an Opaline Spangle Grey maybe Dilute in there too.
  22. I notice you are in Perth. Which avian vet are you seeing. If you need crop tube lessons I can help but you would need to come to me. I am in Armadale.
  23. Papa Doc your comment is just a little rude to say the least. Thanksgiving is much like our Australia Day. There are many written references for TGD but that Elly is a rather one eyed religous view. It makes it sound as though the Native Americans came to their rescue. A little far from the truth actually. The Pilgrims went to America for one reason – to form a separate community in which they could worship God as they saw fit. They had fled England because King James I was persecuting those who did not recognize the Church of England's absolute civil and spiritual authority. A Pilgram called William Bradford (his wife died)kept a journal and it is from those pages that reveal the reason why so many perished. They practised an early form of socialism. Needless to say a reform was imminent and Bradford as governor implemented change towards a common wealth system (free enterprise) and they then begun to prosper. Oh and don't forget that Indian Massacre. Much is written on the founding of America and Australia for that matter but not all is correct. Quote: "Imagination plays too important a role in the writing of history, and what is imagination but the projection of the author's personality." Pieter Geyl And there is that other quote about history is written by the victors. Halloween is another festivity whereby people seem to have lost the plot. It is a Celtic (possible roman origins too)festival called All Hallowes Eve whereby the souls of the dead walk amongst the living for one night of the year. It has always amused me that both America and Australia have there origins in England. Yet the Americans still practise a lot of the old country festivals where as Australians have shed them. Australians are quick to critic the influx of so called Amercian traditions i.e. Halloween, and yet both countries hare a common ancestry and so by default share the same traditions. Was only gonna make a quick reply here. Reckon I got carried away a bit so I will step off my soap box and leave it there for now.
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