macka
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Its not the first time, that NSW Judges, have stuffed up.They had a clanger ayear or 2 back..
Us Vic don't mind, it makes it easer for us to beat NSW if they don't score in a class.
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I have heard it all now,What is Don Burke,trying to do, the same as he did to some of the Dog breeds.,
Its a money making exercise.It will be lucky to get off the ground.Miniture Budgie Shows.What next.!!!!!!!!!
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I was going to say, if they were rung birds.But thought that they would
not of been that dumb,But it seem they were,I hope the BVC,takes them to task.
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Yes GB,any one that keeps them alive, are not being kind to the birds.
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I wonder if they will be dealing with that 'breeder' again
You would like to think not.I hope they spoke the the person,
& explained to them. the problem those Mops have.
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I would like to think, that some one told them or reported them,
for having those birds for sale &the person who took them to the
shop.I would like to think they were not a Member of the BCV.
If they are they need a big rap over the knuckles.
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I was banned once before over Mops.It is cruel to let them live
& for some one to have them in a Pet Shop & to be selling them They should
be reported & taken to the cleaners.Name & Shame is the least that
could be done.I could say a lot more.But I will leave it at that.
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okay i have arranged to go to a club breeder house to pick out my 1st show budgie tomorrow I was going to go to geelong sales but a family member decied to have her birthday party that day at 12pm! How rude lol anyway so i found a add on gumtree he has a few birds i like the type colour etc but unsure about the spots on face etc can someone please tell me what makes a good novice bird thanks
Give us a name & I might be able to say if he/she is a show breeder,or just a
breeder that buys rings & they may not be worth the money you pay.???
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in New to BBC
Yes, I have been in contact with Mark Hawke
Yes that's the Man.The other one is John Scoble,I think that's his surname.????
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Hello all, Have already posted a couple of times asking for help, so i thought i should introduce myself.
Im 32 male living in the central west NSW, Where i live and work on the family farm where with my 2 brothers.
I have had budgies way back when i was in primary school, so a long time ago. . . I have been wanting to get budgies again for some time, and with the sudden passing of my dad 6 months ago, i decided it was a good time to start a new hobby, to get my mind focused on something else.
But anyway Im excited about breeding my budgies in the future and to learn all i can about them.
Budboy,I think there is a couple of good breeders,around your area,You need to
go on to the NSW Budgie site & look up the club in your area.
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Makes me glad my inlaws just wont come in the house as its messy and i have pet python maybe you could get one too lol
The Python,will love your Budgies.Will make for as good snack.
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I have read alot about breeding budgies before i even tried, so maybe thats y?,
Yeah ive noticed that id read something and they would say completely different to someone, but theres one lady on there thats really nice and she helps alot
I think you better read a lot more about the Budgie,would be a good idea,
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Take a plan of what your going to do & get it in writing the okay.
So down the track for what ever reason,you have the proof of the
of the Councils approval
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Yes if the nabours complain & it is not to council.
regulation you will have to move it,also in some area's
you are not aloud to keep, birds or Poultry & by your photo's
it looks to be a new area.Better check before you start, if you haven't
already.There are a lot of Council laws these days as to what you can do in
your back yard.
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A shot of fly spray under the wings might do the trick as
well.Or put him in a paper bag, with his head out & spray
fly spray into the Bag.
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You tell'em Daz,I know in the Fancy Pigeons, there are breeders that only feed
Pallets & have done so for Years.
I know this is only a typos or spelling gaff, but ya gotta laugh when trying to picture budgies or birds eating palletts..wooden they get splinters LMAO
:D That's what happens, when your spell check,dosn't tell you have put the wrong
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The cock is a greywing dominant pied green
The hen is an opaline dominant pied green
Neville, do you think that in photos 4,8 and 10, the male looks like he has spangle wing markings?
I think that is the grey wing markings,
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D: I feed pellets as an ADDITION to my birds balanced diet which also consists of seeds (dry and sprouted), vegetables, and assorted mineral additives.
BJ: Most show bird breeder are more concerned with progeny production than the long term liver & kidney damage, due to vitamin & mineral overdose.
D: That's a pretty broad and sweeping statement and an insult to the people who frequent this forum. It's also contradictory as long term liver and kidney damage is going to prevent progeny production. I am aware of the effects of feeding particular pellets as a sole source of nutrition but that's not what I'm advocating. A quick browse through the posts in this forum will show you that breeders here ARE very concerned with the well being of their birds, some paying more attention to their birds' diet than their own!
D: The pellets are offered in a separate bowl on a daily basis. Most of my birds eat the pellets, a few do not so obviously they mustn't taste too bad.
BJ: Too bad doesn't mean good.
D: So if you went to a smorgasboard buffet and most of the diners ate, say, the roast, your conclusion would be that you still can't tell whether the majority think it tastes good? If a fish slapped you in the head would you know it was a fish? Geez!!!
D: I'm not sure why people insist on coming on here and starting threads about how pellets are the work of the devil and nobody should feed them as a single source of nutrition to their budgies.
BJ: I'm sure I never said that!
D: Your topic heading says "B.J's Pellets or Natural Diet, NO CONTEST". That sounds to me like you're post is discussing a pellet only diet vs a natural diet. You also wrote "why would you force your birds to eat anything they don't like?"
D: I note you're in Manchester and I'm not sure how things operate over in the UK, but you're on an Australian forum and for what it's worth i know of NO budgie breeders who feed their birds a diet consisting solely of pellets.
BJ: Come on, Australia a big place. There could be some you don't know about.
D: Nope, I know them all. ;-) Okay, say I knew about 100 and none of them fed a diet consisting solely of pellets. Do you really think the feeding of pellets as a sole dietary source is that big of a problem in budgie breeders? Personally I only know of 1 guy that replaced seed with pellets as a trial and that was 14 years ago. I don't know if he persisted with that. I tried it myself a few years ago on a small sample of birds for a few weeks and concluded that the birds did better on a diet with pellets plus all the usual stuff (although I sort of suspected that might be the outcome). Typically budgie breeders in Aus (as far as I know) haven't taken on the idea of pellets but parrot breeders here have embraced it in a big way.
D:The few of us who use them feed in addition to a balanced diet.
BJ: In a balanced diet. Why would you need them?
D: You're right, they probably don't need them, but given they've been developed by an avian nutritionist and my birds like to eat them in addition to their non-pellet diet I feel that they may benefit from their inclusion.
D:Also, making absurd statements about protein coming from the slaughter house is just downright misleading as your post implies
BJ:Your right, I can only speak for pellets manufactured in GB. I worked for 2years in a slaughter house. No doubt Australian pellets are made from prime steak.
D: The ingredients list might be a giveaway, especially the little bit of writing on some where it says "contains no animal products". Perhaps some do contain meat products but none of the mainstream ones that I've looked at here contain any meat products. None!
D: ALL pellets are the same! That's like saying all cars are **** because you bought a piece of junk from "Dodgy Dan the Car Sales Man".
BJ: Funny you should mention cars. The one I have is great but there are at least four identical models that I have spotted with a different manufacturers badge on.
D: I think you missed my point. See next para for explanation.
D: As with any product it's up to the consumer to determine which product is suitable because unlike the implication in your post, pellets are not all the same.
BJ: Well I can't prove they are & you can't prove they ain't.
D: No YOU can't, but have you tried using Google? There's a lot of pellets types/brands on the market but I'm not going to fill this post further with countless lists of ingredients. I'm sure some are much better than others too but again that's for the buyer to research and decide.
D: One final thing: most pellets contain a mycotoxin deactivator. Do breeders know where their seed comes from and if it's been treated for mycotoxins or even what the dangers of them are? Given our (Aust east coast) wetter climate of the last 12 months mycotoxins are sure to be more prevalent in grains now than in our past drier years. I attended a chook forum last year and questioned the expert pitching his mycotoxin deactivator to the audience about how our budgie seed could be treated. In short, he didn't know. Seeing as you've spent the "latter part of your working life" in "seeds, grain and animal feedstuff" perhpas you would be able to shed some light on how we can decrease the risk of mycotoxin in seed.
BJ: Sorry I'm not a scientist. I retired in 1985, but if you know, why don't you tell us? Pellets are like sausages. it's best not to know wots in em!
D: If I knew I wouldn't be asking you, lol! That is why I was asking as you've included in your introduction how you've worked in the seed and grain business. I have no experience in this field but found it interesting that when I questioned the "expert" he agreed it could be a problem but wasn't sure what to do about it. Ironically his only suggestion was to feed a foodstuff which contained a mycotoxin deactivator which, lo and behold, are in the pellets I feed! I don't know how effective this approach would be especially since a few of my birds (I'll estimate it'd be about 10-20%) consume little or no pellets.
BJ: That was hard work. my typing finger will need a long rest now. Yours No insult intended. B.J.
D: I guess in summary you're saying that pellets shouldn't be used as a sole dietary source and on that we both agree. However I feel they have a place offered as a part of my birds diet given the research done by the manufacturer to make it as a "complete diet". I just choose to make my birds' diet a little more complete by also feeding all the traditional stuff.
Anyway, I gotta go as I'm going to be late for work if I don't get outside and feed the other animals including the old horse who gets 2 scoops of pellets morning and night. Uh oh, better not start again!!! Have a good day BJ. Cheers.
You tell'em Daz,I know in the Fancy Pigeons, there are breeders that only feed
Pallets & have done so for Years.
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I agree with you Daryl. They are most likly Vegans & stuff there Budgies with
fruit & vegetables.
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Oh yeah! The final issue is that David's (my fiancee) family never tell each other how they really feel. So when I do turn around and say something I get pinned as the bad guy for being too negative. His whole family I one big puppet show with the older people just telling the younger ones what to do. It is just so annoying.
Does anyone else have problem In-laws? How do you deal with them?
I'd love some advise.
This is a Budgie Forum,not a Personal Problem Forum.
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Good luck Splat, I'm hoping the levys wont break, and I hope that as they make the levy higher, they make it wider, otherwise it definitely wont work, if they're not building it wider as well, make sure you mension it to them
I could just imagine that,going up to the people building the levy bank
& saying to them.That's not wide enough.
Splat,I hope the water doesn't go over the Levy & you are safe & dry.
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You may be able to buy seed in single lots.But you could be asked to take in
bag lots 20kgs.Unless the place mixes there own seed, I doubt they would sell in small lots.
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James cut your loss & buy your self a healthy
Bird.It is very hard to do,being your first Budgie.
But the amount of treatment you have given it,I think
you have a up hill battle, to get it healthy.Macka.
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I think you need to look into having or making suspended aviaries.
Suspended Aviaries the way to go,no problems with wet floors.
The only problem you may have if you make them to big is catching
the birds. but you can get around that,by making depth no more then
arms length, with net in hand.
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