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  1. Of course if you know you wouldn't be able to take care of animals, it's best not to have one but there is a difference in money being tight in someone life during a time then not being able to afford pets. Now I think that was very rude and judgmental because I had said that right now money is tight, doesn't mean I can't take care of my animals. That is very unfair of you because you have no idea what is going on, someone could have a major event happen, where it could take all of their income away, so would that then be right for you to say what you did? As in anyone's life, when it comes to children or pets, sometimes things might become hard to pay, specially when you have other mouths to feed and take care of. So since I ask someone what they paid for service, makes me unable to take care of my birds, in your opinion where I should give them up. Now I didn't say I wasn't going to take them to the vet, like I said the biggest problem is there isn't a Vet close by that specializes in birds, so that makes it very difficult to bring my little bird to the vet if its hours away. Like I said I was hoping there was something I could do at home, and I wasn't asking for anyone to diagnose her or tell me what to do for no cost, I just wanted some advice, not someone being judgmental when you have no idea what is going on in our life to make such comments. That would make anyone upset specially if their birds are their children, but because they are like my children, doesn't mean the world sees them that way. So I don't have any control over where a Bird Vet where to take location or that health care for pets are not like children or humans where if in an emergency I was able to take my bird for care then be billed or be able to make payments specially when I don't live in the same county as the closet Bird Vet. So I ask nicely that if anyone feels that something isn't right or is wrong in a birds home to ask questions, so you better understand the situation before making comments that will only cause drama/emotions on a post! Thank You!
  2. Thanks everyone! I know I need to take her to the Vet, the problem with that is there isn't one close by that specializes in birds or anyone who will look at one and at this time we are really tight on money. I don't want to lose her, she was such a good parent. To the one who said they had something similar happen with them, did it cost a lot for what you had done. I want to be able to help her but I'm afraid I can't pay for the service so that's why I was hoping there was something I could do at home to help her. Her mate is left in their cage and I put her in her own cage with no perches or anything, just a low dish for her food and water. She already seems like she got the hang of it with one leg by using her beak to climb. Also she doesn't seem in pain because when I examined her leg she didn't move, jump or make any reaction to me touching, moving it. Though she might still be in some pain, I'm not sure! I feel really bad for her about her not being able to use both legs as I'm learning they are very important for budgies! I also feel bad because I think I could have notice before hand because there was slight change in her behavior early on. For instance, when I would usually go check on the babies, she would jump out of the nest box when I open the door in the back. But she started not getting out, just hanging out in there and wouldn't move off of the babies. She never did that before, I mean she would still be in there sometimes but once I shine the light in the box, she would get out. So, I think her leg was giving her problems then but not as bad because she was still doing good in the cage outside of the nest box. So any advise would be greatly appreciated and needed! Thanks everyone!
  3. I found two dead babies and then I noticed that mom was stuck on the floor all stressed out. She acts like it is broken or something but I can't feel any breaks. Does anyone have any ideas. She has been in a hospital cage for a two days and she is alive but still can't use her leg. I am hand feeding the last baby so she doesen't have to worry about it. I am giveing her vitamins and minerals in her water now and I don't know what to do for her?
  4. Thats what I have been doing. We take the babies out for a while everyday and when they get hungry we hand feed them all a good crop full of Formula. They love it and we seem to be letting the parents get a break. I don't do it more than once a day so the parents do most of the feeding but next to hand feeding them myself this is the next best thing. I also beleive that the formula that I buy is higher in vitamins minerals and protein than the seed mix and vegies my budgies are eating and feeding the babies. So It cant hurt. I think they will be more tame for it.
  5. You are right. I think that they should be fed when they beg for food or the crop is empty which ever comes first. Although with some birds they will loose their feeding response if fed before the crop is mostly empty. This means they will loose intrest to feed. The longer you wait the more enthusiastically they will feed. If the baby is begging and the crop is still full and you feed it more it could cause sour crop or crop slow down. So as lond as it is mostly empty before you top it off again it is fine. The parents feed them when they solicit food from them. The loudest chicks are fed first and the more enthuiastic the chick is the more and sooner it will be fed. The parrents don't check their crops to see if they are empty. They just listen for begging and thats it. So I say feed them when they want to be fed or when the crop is empty which ever comes first.
  6. Well I have fish aquriums in the room as well. And they always need water so it's okay. I have a hygrometer and temp. gauge in the room. For my Spiders I have 8 Tarantulas. It stays between 40 and 60 % with the fans. I live in Daytona Beach Florida. The most humid place in the world! But I will keep an eye on this. Thank you
  7. Yes they were closed bred only them in the cage for 4 months. So will the blues be opaline? Or too hard to tell untill fledgeing Oh I forgot yes both are opalines they both look a little pied as well. The father has yellow wings and is darker green and the mother is just opaline and lighter green. Two of the babies have yellow wings and a nice round yellow spot on top of their heads.
  8. Well she finally laid the 3rd egg after 3 days without one. I don't know if she was egg bound but the egg looks okay. I keep them in a well lighted area and they eat plenty of cuttle bone and egg shells and I give vitamins sometiimes. It is kept at 82 degrees with a/c and I have fans and air purification. I read everything on the list and the only thing I don't know for sure is the age. All else is good. So I am surprised she laid another egg. She spends all of her time in the box not on the eggs yet though? Anyway Elly thanks for the info it made me feel better to know what to look for.
  9. My second pair laid 2 eggs and its been 2 days since the last egg. Is this okay? She seems okay I think. Is there any symptoms when she is egg bound? I will keep a close watch on her.
  10. Well we have been holding the little guys as much as we think thy can handle. I hope thy come out as tame as hand fed. They seem to be likeing us. I think. Anyway their feathers are starting to show color and its so weird I got 1 blueish color baby and two with yellow wings and yellow spots on top of their heads(dominant pied?) I think? and the last looks like the blue but still to small. The parents are both opaline greens and the father has yellow wings. The reason I think it is weird is when I bought the pairs from the breeder he only had greens. Green pairs only and green babies only. He didn't have one blue out of a hundred and he said they weren't split. When we got the pairs from him we switched the pairing he had them in. I wanted both opalines together. Can I assume they will be opaline? And I guess he was wrong about the splits.
  11. Hi everyone I have sad news. The youngest of my five bubs died on friday. I thought he looked very small and by thursday his neck looked very long and thin. His body looked very small as well. This is my first clutch ever so I am a little disappointed. I guess they can't always do good. I just hope the next ones all live.
  12. My other pair laid an egg today. The first pair had five eggs and all are doing very good. The last one hatched on the 25th. Both parents are Opaline green and the dad has yellow wings. Any predictions?. Anyway I was checking the babies just now and I looked in their neighbors box and there was 1 new egg. I cant believe it. I can't wait to see what we get. The mom is a dominant pied dark green and the dad is grey wing with light markings. Anyway more babies on the way!!!
  13. I was wondering if anyone has a budgie that talks and what does it say? I read that the budgie and african grey have both held the title for the most words at around 2000 or so words. Although the budgies arent as clear as african greys they are great talkers. None of mine talk yet but I am going to tame one of our new babies and hopefully he will talk for me.
  14. The only reason I have for hand feeding the babies is to make them tame pets. I have hand fed larger parrots many times. I am very confident I have all the skills needed to produce healthy babies. I have hand fed all of my own parrots and my friends. I hand fed my African Grey my Sun Conure and my Senegal. When I was a kid I raised many abandoned chicks (not parrots) when storms destroyed their nests. My first hand feeding experince with parrot type birds was when I got a baby Nanday Conure for my fifteenth birthday. I lost him in my divorce from my ex wife he was 11. I did not know a lot at that time but I read about it and an old lady who sold me the bird showed me how she did it. I am currently hand feeding my new baby blue fronted amazon. He was pulled at three weeks and seems to be doing good. I use the very best hand feeding formula available. I have used Kaytee Exact in the past but now we are using Harrison's Organic formula. I also think by leaving them with the parents for a couple weeks they get they bacteria and other natural antibodies for the crop milk. I do understand what all of you are saying. I have never raised budgies before. An Amazon or African Grey would never let you handle it's babies daily for tameing. You would loose a finger. In the us I think we hand feed a little too much. There are hand fed babies available all the time. Except budgies. Budgies in the US are mass produced for the pet industry and are never ever tame at all. So really I just want to produce some babies I can actually handle like my other birds. I will try both things. I will hand feed two and let the parents do the other three while we hold them daily. We will see if I can do as good a job as mother nature?
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