Guest mattpaulmps Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Ive got 8 pairs of budgies in there breeding cages, but only 2 have layed eggs, i give them all fresh water, greens and plenty of seed and clean there cages daily, all females are nice and brown above the beak and all males nice and blue and all the birds are 1 year or more old. ive heard seperating them for a week or so and puting them back again could work. Does that mean put them in my avery or in cages by themselves?? or could it just be that they dont like each other??? any advice would be great thanks matt. Link to comment
Guest Lin Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Maybe you can put them back in the aviary and see who pairs up with who? Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) there can be many different reasons to this. 1. the birds paired are the same gender, don't laugh it can happen. 2. the birds paried together don't like each other. If you didn't pair them for a perticliar reason (ie colours) you could try sawping the pairs around. 3. This is they first time. Both females and male take longer the first time aroudn since they have to workout what to do They are the main ones coming to me now, some say it canhelp to remove them from the breeding cages (so back in the aviary) and then pair them up again. I myself don't know if it works or not I really can't see how since it would be unsettling them, they have to feel safe in the cage to want to start breeding. Or you can do as Lin says and let them piar up themselves, but for sure there will be two males that want the same female or two females to fight over a male :hap: This would go with point 2, if you didn't care which bird was with which. If you do I would wait. How long have they been in the cages for? Edited November 6, 2006 by Nerwen Link to comment
Boris' Slave 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Member ID: 2,138 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 164 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,481 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 12, 2011 Birthday: 10/02/1973 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Give them some time. All birds don't go BANG and start mating straight away, maybe they just aren't ready, no reason other than that. Link to comment
Guest mattpaulmps Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 there can be many different reasons to this.1. the birds paired are the sax gender, don't laugh it can happen. 2. the birds paried together don't like each other. If you didn't pair them for a perticliar reason (ie colours) you could try sawping the pairs around. 3. This is they first time. Both females and male take longer the first time aroudn since they have to workout what to do They are the main ones coming to me now, some say it canhelp to remove them from the breeding cages (so back in the aviary) and then pair them up again. I myself don't know if it works or not I really can't see how since it would be unsettling them, they have to feel safe in the cage to want to start breeding. Or you can do as Lin says and let them piar up themselves, but for sure there will be two males that want the same female or two females to fight over a male :hap: This would go with point 2, if you didn't care which bird was with which. If you do I would wait. How long have they been in the cages for? thanks for the help, what is the sax gender? does it mean gay? can that realy happen? and i do want want them in there pairs for colour and a couple of them are brother and sister and dont realy want to imbreed them, how long do you think is long enough to leave them together as a couple of them have been together for about 4 or 5 weeks now? Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Please don't inbreed your budgies. :hap: That is how genetic defects are passed down. If you have a brother/sister pairing, please change it. And yes, same sex pairings can happen. In younger birds, especially males, it seems safer to practice the song and other mating behaviors with a same sex bird. At least in my experience it seems that way. As they get older when paired with a suitable hen they should be fine. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Don't I know it. Had two female together for weeks..... Oh well you learn things....... Try taking them out of the cages for 4 weeks and then reintroducing them. Make sure that they are at least 12 months old. Some may not be fertile. Hen out of condition can be brought back in to condition by the right male. As lin said if this is the first time. Take them out for two weeks. Put them back in the flight and see if any pair up. Try them so that they get the idea and then after the first round rest them for a month and then try them in the colour combination that you want. Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted November 21, 2005 what is the sax gender? does it mean gay? can that realy happen? *faints* It was just a typo no need to panic I ment same. must have thought sex then changed my mind to gender and my fingers didn't keep up :hap: It seems the boys like to hang together and learn tips off each other when leaft in a large group, but when paired to a hen they are happy to woo her. I knew there was another reason I was thinking off, unconditioned hen (or male) As Daz said. make sure al your hens have a dark brown cere, most hen have a crusty looking one at this stage while the males have a smooth blue cere. Link to comment
hath 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Member ID: 70 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 847 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/10/03 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2020 Birthday: 30/09/1969 Share Posted November 21, 2005 if you are using breeding cages leave the birds fo 21 days if nothing has happened remove back to the flights and try again in 2 to 3 weeks if in condition if they refuse again change the partners Link to comment
Guest hommer2054 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Well here is a good tip that works most of the time for me but remember there are always some birds no matter what you do will not breed its just the way it is. Prepare your breeding cage place the female in there for about 2 weeks then introduce the male If they don?t start feeding and talking to each other it usually means that they don?t like each other Reasons being colour or size with budgies if they don?t start to bob there heads and talk to each other it means its just not on As there are no pickup lines with birds. Well I hope this helps and all the best with your flock Link to comment
hath 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Member ID: 70 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 847 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/10/03 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2020 Birthday: 30/09/1969 Share Posted November 22, 2005 the only problem with that hommer is that some hens get used to the nest boxs and wont come out long enough to mate and you end up with clear eggs Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted November 26, 2005 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I have heard of that Hath. They call it nest bound. I first thought they were refering to the egg bind. The way around it is to block the nest entrance in the morning for an hour to keep the hen in the cage with the male so they have a chance to breed. You do this for as many days as it take for them to mate. Link to comment
nathan1 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Member ID: 2,910 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 65 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 500 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/10/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Maybe you can put them back in the aviary and see who pairs up with who? i agree Link to comment
Cindy 0 Posted November 7, 2006 Member ID: 2,179 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 256 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,260 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 13, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2006 The way around it is to block the nest entrance in the morning for an hour to keep the hen in the cage with the male so they have a chance to breed. You do this for as many days as it take for them to mate. oooh Daz, that sounds like 'sex salvery'. Just kidding you Daz. I had not thought of that one, I often told them to read a book :sad: but they would just chatter back to me Cindy Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted November 7, 2006 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted November 7, 2006 lol it does sound a bit strange doesn't it. Link to comment
Guest albe Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have a hen and cock both in breeding condition but the female trys to kill the male and the male is in love with my lovebird, who would love to kill him! Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It sounds like your cock lucked out. I would take him out and let him live. Try again in a week or two. Link to comment
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