Nadene 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted March 1, 2013 How are the other nests going? Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 I have some more photos! I will do an update on all the other nests first though Pair 2-- update All eggs were infertile, she would never get off them so it was hard to check, but as they hadn't hatched by now I assumed so...today I managed to check and all looked infertile. I removed them all and double checked, all infertile...sad! I removed both birds from the breeding cage, I am going to rest them and try again in the Spring, maybe they need to mature a bit more, both were 1 year, but maybe need a little more time Pair 3--update Have two beautiful chicks, the first has just started opening its eyes. Another chick should hatch in the next few days. Out of the eight eggs I expect only three Pair 4-- update Ended up having 6 eggs (the 7th broke) The first hatched this morning, cute :3 The next will not hatch until about four days due to the broken egg being the second, fingers crossed Pair 1-- the chicks!! I will put up photos and write the mutations we believe they are Chick 1 Mutations- Yellow face mutant II, Cinnamon, opaline Its belly has colour now, it is very light, any ideas? Chick 2 Mutations- yellowface mutant II, greywing cinnamon, skyblue Chick 3 Mutations- yellow face mutant II, opaline, cinnamon, cobalt Chick 4 Mutations- greywing cinnamon, goldenface? , cobalt? Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lovely chicks Kathryn, I get the Cinnamon but that's about my knowledge on genetics. I really will have to try harder !!! Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Thank you, I am so proud of them Especially as my first chicks ) Now I can't wait to see how my other little pinkies feather up, from my other two pairs :3 Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 4, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Pair 4- update Third chick hatched today Pair 1-- update Oldest chick has left the nest box Placed a box in the cage so that it can sleep in an enclosed area at night Already eating some endive Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 7, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 What is everyone's experiences with weaning, how old are they usually? How can you help the chicks with this? Thanks! Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 10, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pair 1-- update All chicks have left the nest box All look beautiful and have started trying the seed Pair 3-- update The two chicks are growing well. I think that the eldest may be a double factor spangle, yellow, what does everyone think? The wings are all yellow, no shades of other colours The youngest chick, is it a yellow or a white based? Pair 4-- update Have four chicks Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted March 10, 2013 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Hi Kathryn they usually take about a week to wean but it can vary. It does look like you have a double factor spangle there but you can't tell what the other one is going to be yet except that it is not a double factor spangle. You can see dark pin feathers coming through, as it get older if it's two central tail feathers are clear that indicates spangles. Cheers Jenny Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 11, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks, it will be a surprise Pair 1--update Mum started pulling out the two eldest chicks tail feathers and wing. I noticed a few feathers in the nest box but then they all left, I thought this may be the case so removed the nest box in case she was wanting to lay again. I thought it could also be french moult so I was worried Today I saw her chasing the eldest and started pulling on the feather! I was horrified :/ I removed her straight away and am leaving Dad with them until they finish weaning, any advice? Has any one had this? How long until the feathers grow back? Thanks! Pair 4-- update Now have a fifth chick Link to comment
Nadene 0 Posted March 11, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Bugger everything was going so well Sounds to me you've done the right thing taking her out and leaving them with the father. They shouldn't take to long to grow back as long as she hasn't damaged the feather follicle. Great news about pair 4 Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 The worst has happened, all four chicks have french moult, after further research I am sure it is the disease and I am devestated :/ Now I am unsure what to do :/ I have done my own research but the advice I have gotten on here has been the best so I would like to know what I should do, with the chicks and parents? I have thought I could give them all away to a good home, the chicks and the parents to someone who does not breed, would this need to be done with the male or just the hen? What about the chicks in my other nest, will they be okay? I am at a loss, especially with my first chicks, however I do not wish to be down forever and would really appreciate any advice you could give, even if it is to say that I am over reacting. Thank you Link to comment
Nadene 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Sorry to hear that. Have you got any pictures? because if the mother was pulling feathers, the chicks might copy and do the same to each other. My young ones still pull on the other birds feathers, even on the older birds like it is a game (until someone gets bitten). If it is you need to move them as far away from the other nests as possible A.S.A.P and make sure you don't cross contaminate with the other birds e.g washing hands bowls etc. Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Hi Kathryn don't panic just take out the nest box and rest them for six months to give them all a chance to develope an immunity. Let all of your others finish their round, they may or may not be affected then rest them all together. It happens often when you get together birds from different collections and it seems to be more common in the hotter months. Your babies should grow their feathers back and be able to fly fine. Hopefully by next spring they should be all ready to breed again. Cheers Jenny Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Okay, as I have read some stuff that says they won't ever fly? Can the chicks be housed with the other birds too, as in, in an aviary set up? I will move them away from the other chicks with the father to another area, but when they are older? I will get pictures soon Thank you both for the help Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The majority of them grow their feathers back without any problems, then when they can fly put them in the aviary. It is important to keep giving them quality feed so their immune system is strengthened. Only the other day a avian vet was talking about it and he said leave them for six months then try again, it is called polyoma virus. Hopefully from your good husbandry they will fight it off quickly. Cheers Jenny Link to comment
Nadene 0 Posted March 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) As Jenny said the majority of them do grow back and even if they don't they learn to adjust. I had one (he past away last week) who had no flights or tail and he lived in my aviary and he used to sit up on the perches with everyone else. The only thing he had different was I made a ladder so he could get to the wire if he was on the floor and he would just climb up. Sorry I feel like I'm giving worst case but I just want you to know that the birds will be fine either way Edited March 12, 2013 by Nadene Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 13, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 No, it is fine, I am just glad they will be fine I will make sure they are fit enough before they go into the aviary, they will be good additions as they are still beautiful birds Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted March 17, 2013 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted March 17, 2013 French Molt can have a wide range of how severely it affects chicks. It can range from killing young chicks in the nest, to causing permanent feather damage, to just causing temporary feather damage that molts out.. It can also cause no symptoms, if it is mild and the birds own immune system fights it off. (I learned this from doing a lot of reading about it on line.) From what I understand, if your chicks feathered up just fine before any symptoms appeared, then it will probably affect them more lightly, and they have a good chance to be fine. Do you have photos of them? It sounds like there is a chance that they have lost feathers due to some other reason? I wish you good luck with them. Link to comment
kathryn92 0 Posted March 26, 2013 Member ID: 7,539 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 530 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/01/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Hi, Sorry I haven't replied in a while, uni has been full on :/ I have a few days over Easter so will get photos then, but it seems like they are already growing their feathers back Link to comment
Budgie_Mad 0 Posted March 26, 2013 Member ID: 7,367 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,860 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/07/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2023 Birthday: 29/04/1997 Device: Windows Share Posted March 26, 2013 Your chicks are so pretty I myself are a first time breeder in this season but only one of my three pairs laid and hatched 2 out of 6. I love looking at photos of someone else's chicks at the same age as mine 11 days today and 7 days for youngest. Link to comment
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