phoenix 0 Posted October 22, 2012 Member ID: 7,457 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 305 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2012 All my budgies were from outdoor aviaries so I thought I should worm them. But how do I worm them when they are not yet handleable? I have seen that they use of Ivemectin is recomended but it's a spot on one. I also read someones canary died because of the toxicity of the drops. i worm my tortoises with panacur, would I be able to use that for my birds too? Link to comment
Bird Junky 0 Posted October 22, 2012 Member ID: 7,065 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,185 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/01/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 13, 2013 Birthday: 02/05/1936 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hi You only need to worm birds if they have worms. Check poo for evidence...B.J. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted October 22, 2012 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hi Phoenix, To each his own, I personally dose all my birds with a drop of Ivomectin (for birds,it may be sold under another name there) I do mine regardless, whenever I bring a new bird home I use it. If you have any other problems it may clear them as well. I leave them in quarantine for 3-4 weeks to make sure they are healthy before adding them to Aviary. I don't know the tortoise wormer but it's horse's for course's, I'd only use a specific bird wormer for birds, reptile wormer maybe toxic for birds and vice versa. Link to comment
phoenix 0 Posted October 23, 2012 Member ID: 7,457 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 305 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hi Phoenix, To each his own, I personally dose all my birds with a drop of Ivomectin (for birds,it may be sold under another name there) I do mine regardless, whenever I bring a new bird home I use it. If you have any other problems it may clear them as well. I leave them in quarantine for 3-4 weeks to make sure they are healthy before adding them to Aviary. I don't know the tortoise wormer but it's horse's for course's, I'd only use a specific bird wormer for birds, reptile wormer maybe toxic for birds and vice versa. Is that a drop on the back of the neck of each bird? Is there one I can put in their food or water so I don't have to catch them. They aren't used to me yet. I would like to worm them because they were all in an outdoor aviary and just want to be sure they are all clear. Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted October 23, 2012 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hi panacur should be fine to worm them with, it is what most of your older birdkeepers used to use just not sure on the dose rates. Also budgies can tend to go without water for a long time so it is difficult to know how much medication they take in. If you could find someone to teach you how to use a crop needle it will be a great tool for you if you intend breeding your birds. Cheers Jenny Link to comment
phoenix 0 Posted October 23, 2012 Member ID: 7,457 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 305 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hi panacur should be fine to worm them with, it is what most of your older birdkeepers used to use just not sure on the dose rates. Also budgies can tend to go without water for a long time so it is difficult to know how much medication they take in. If you could find someone to teach you how to use a crop needle it will be a great tool for you if you intend breeding your birds. Cheers Jenny Thank you for your help. I've watched a youtube video of using a crop needle. I think I'll get my vet to show me how to do it before I try. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted October 24, 2012 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Same here, yes it is one drop on neck for Ivamectin. Can you walk into your cage/aviary or not? If you can walk into it, you can use a small net to catch each bird to treat them. Obviously they don't like it, when you catch them (with a glove on if you have hens l.o.l), it would be easier with 2 people, I manage by myself by holding bird and gently blowing the feathers up so you can place drop on skin. If you have a large cage you would have to have a 2nd cage handy, indoors so you don't loose any, catch each bird,treat it and place in 2nd cage until they are all done then return them to their original cage. Hope this helps. Link to comment
phoenix 0 Posted October 24, 2012 Member ID: 7,457 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 305 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Same here, yes it is one drop on neck for Ivamectin. Can you walk into your cage/aviary or not? If you can walk into it, you can use a small net to catch each bird to treat them. Obviously they don't like it, when you catch them (with a glove on if you have hens l.o.l), it would be easier with 2 people, I manage by myself by holding bird and gently blowing the feathers up so you can place drop on skin. If you have a large cage you would have to have a 2nd cage handy, indoors so you don't loose any, catch each bird,treat it and place in 2nd cage until they are all done then return them to their original cage. Hope this helps. Thank you for your help. I do have a walk in aviary or is it a flight, not realyl sure. I will have to handle them soon. I know how to handle birds I have 3 parrots and have had birds for many years. I just worry about these after on dropped dead of fright a week after we got them. Here's my Aviary/flight Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Great looking Aviary/Flight. Is it indoors? Do your birds get access to sunlight? If you have all pet birds it should be great. Good to be able to watch what your birds get up to. P.S. I wouldn't worry about the one you lost. I had one fly past me in Aviary screeching and fell to floor dead also. I think it's just an odd event, you'll probably have the rest for years yet. Edited October 25, 2012 by robyn Link to comment
Bird Junky 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Member ID: 7,065 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,185 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/01/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 13, 2013 Birthday: 02/05/1936 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Hi An Aviary is where birds, eat sleep & play all in the same area...... A flight is the play area attached to separate eating & sleeping quarters....B.J. Link to comment
phoenix 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Member ID: 7,457 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 305 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Great looking Aviary/Flight. Is it indoors? Do your birds get access to sunlight? If you have all pet birds it should be great. Good to be able to watch what your birds get up to. P.S. I wouldn't worry about the one you lost. I had one fly past me in Aviary screeching and fell to floor dead also. I think it's just an odd event, you'll probably have the rest for years yet. Yes the aviary is indoors. There isn't mush sun around in the UK most of the time but when there is The doors will be open to let in the heat and whatever sun can bounce in.I supliment them with vitamin D3 in their seed so they don't suffer any deficiencies. Hi An Aviary is where birds, eat sleep & play all in the same area...... A flight is the play area attached to separate eating & sleeping quarters....B.J. Thanks for that, I have an aviary then. Link to comment
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