BirdLOVER<3

Breeding Help?

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I have 6 pairs of budgies and only one breeding, i have just swapped two of the pairs around and have tried to take away boxes and put them back in. Most pairs show mating signs but no eggs, they are in cabinets, what can i do/

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Post pictures of your breeding birds so we can assess for you if they are in actual breeding condition.

 

Points to consider......

1. make sure they are of age ( over 12 months for both sexes and under 4 yrs for females )

2. In breeding condition....females cere light to medium brown when beginning, males full blue cere ).

3. make sure you have actual males and females together....believe it or not many a pink cered budgie has been mistaken for female when its a male. Not all males have blue ceres. Females who arent in breeding condition or are too you will have a cere with a good bit of blue on it. Some people think these birds are males but they are females.

4. make sure they arent moulting. they must be in the very best condition to breed. if sick or moulting you will have no success.

5. Be sure there is enough daylight where they are. If too dark they wont breed.

6. Make sure there is some noise going on. If too quiet ....they see quiet as a sign of danger and wont breed. if no other budgie chatter they can hear, play the radio for them 24/7.

7. Make sure there is no rodent activity making them stressed and sick.

 

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thanks for replying, I will try and post some photos soon, One of pair consits of a albino female and violet male, The female cere is does not appear to be in breeding seasonbut the male is dark blue. two of my other females and their mates are dark brown ceres, and the males dark blue. All but one pair appear to preen, one female rips at the paper, but no females have settled into the next box, i have no mice and their is always loud chatter amoungest them. I have swictched pairs and taken nests in and out and then back in. One pair is breeding great and have four babies, but others havent. Been in there for more than two months?

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thanks for replying, I will try and post some photos soon,

One of pair consits of a albino female and violet male, The female cere is does not appear to be in breeding season but the male is dark blue.

Many a male albino has been mistaken for a female. Male albinos ceres stay pink their whole life ...female albinoes ceres go brown. You may have a male in with a male here.

 

two of my other females and their mates are dark brown ceres, dark brown is considered past or at the end of breeding condition

and the males dark blue.

All but one pair appear to preen, one female rips at the paper, but no females have settled into the nest box, i have no mice and their is always loud chatter amoungest them. I have swictched pairs and taken nests in and out and then back in. One pair is breeding great and have four babies, but others havent. Been in there for more than two months?

 

ages ??

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Im not 100%, most bought from petshops, and breeders, i would say they are over 6 monthes. my show female has 10 on her leg band, il try and get some pictures now and put them on :)

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You wait till they are over 12 months not 6 months for breeding. Being sure of their ages is real important if you have put them down to breed.

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Okay thanks, is that why they wont breed, one pair are both of one year but not breeding.

 

Here are the pictures of my budgies minus the one that are already breeding.

 

Pair one:

 

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Pair two:

 

Female:

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Male:

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Pair three:

 

Female: Not happy about photos

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Male:

 

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Pair Four:

 

Female:

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Male:

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Pair five:

 

Female:

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Male:

 

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Pair one - hen looks like a baby still, very young and if she's not, she is completely out of breeding condition. The cock - I'm not sure if it's me, or just the photo but he looks a bit fluffed up like he is ill.

 

Pair two - hen looks like she has started to come out of breeding condition. The cock looks young, but can't really tell from that picture too well. Do you have a close up of his eyes

 

Pair three - The albino looks like a cock, not a hen - could just be my monitor though. And if that's the case they definitely wont produce :)

 

Pair four - the hen looks like she's coming out of breeding condition.

 

Pair five - the hen looks like she is still young and again, if she's not - she is completely out of breeding condition.

 

Those are just my thoughts, someone else may be able to help out :)

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I agree with Amy.

 

Split them all up again ( no nestboxes ) and start posting closer photos for us of all of them showing cere and eyes.

You definitely have some very underaged budgies there that should NOT be breeding.

 

PS your female albino is definitely a male.

Edited by **KAZ**

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Thank you so much

 

no the show male isnt ill, he was just fluffed up for a few seconds, okay i will take them out, i might put in my aviary for a while until they mature enough. Il let them pair up naturally and get two more females for the pair of males that i have. Building a new birdroom, once compelted hopefully they will be old enough, Thanks for all the help, il let yous know how things work out :)

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Sounds like a good plan. You have some VERY beautiful birds! :)

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Thanks,really appreciate the help.

 

Will be buying a small aviary so my budgies can fly around in until they are ready to breed :)

 

 

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I agree most of the birds are not even a year old most don't even have a iris ring and should have

 

as for the Albino - to me the cere looked Pink what color is it in person?

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The albino looks the same in person, i have bought two more females to put with the males, a blue yelow-faced harliquin, and female albino. Also a pair of cape and diamond doves :-)

 

I now have another pair that are able to breed, a violet and the female abino which cere is going that brown colour. The rest will be in a free flight. Il update pictures of my first pair which have 3 chubby babies when i get the nestbox out to clean it.

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You have quarantined them seperately from the others right ?

 

and do you know the ages of the new birds ?

 

a brown cere on the albino females doesnt necessarily mean old enough for safe breeding.

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pair three the albino cock and violet cock

the violets got a pied mark he may be / rec pied if you pair him with the mauve yf rec pied hen when shes about 6 more months old then you will get som very nice bubys if im right

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pair three the albino cock and violet cock

the violets got a pied mark he may be / rec pied if you pair him with the mauve yf rec pied hen when shes about 6 more months old then you will get som very nice bubys if im right

 

Oh okay thanks all my non breeding pairs are together in my aviary, my newbies were quarintined for a few days, they will be in there until ready to breed, il try to remeber to pair them to up thanks, what colours do you think they may produce?

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my newbies were quarintined for a few days

few days ?

 

Recommended quarantine is a minimum 30 days in another cage in another room, in another airspace at least 5 metres from any others.

 

 

the violets got a pied mark he may be / rec pied

I agree :D

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Oh i didnt know they needed that long :unsure: , they seem very healthy and i got them from a trusted breeder.

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Oh i didnt know they needed that long :unsure: , they seem very healthy and i got them from a trusted breeder.

 

 

We're not calling into question the trustworthiness of the breeder. :)

 

It's just that so many of the diseases they have can be dormant in a host bird, and not come to light until that bird is exposed to the stress of new surroundings. The breeder's birds may be immune to something, and therefore healthy, but they could give it to your birds. It goes the other way , too, because your birds may carry something without it affecting them. But when a new bird comes in, it may be susceptible, and come down with it. The stress of moving into a new home causes a period of time when the new bird's immune system may be weaker and more susceptible than usual.

 

 

There are some germs that are called opportunistic, meaning they are always present, but they only show up under stressful conditions. So no one can really claim that their birds are 100% germ free. :) That's why it's best to give a longer quarantine period. Some even suggest 45- 90 days.

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Okay thanks, i will keep them seperated for much longer next time as i generally did not know this, thanks for the help. :lol:

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Oh i didnt know they needed that long :unsure: , they seem very healthy and i got them from a trusted breeder.

 

 

We're not calling into question the trustworthiness of the breeder. :)

 

It's just that so many of the diseases they have can be dormant in a host bird, and not come to light until that bird is exposed to the stress of new surroundings. The breeder's birds may be immune to something, and therefore healthy, but they could give it to your birds. It goes the other way , too, because your birds may carry something without it affecting them. But when a new bird comes in, it may be susceptible, and come down with it. The stress of moving into a new home causes a period of time when the new bird's immune system may be weaker and more susceptible than usual.

 

 

There are some germs that are called opportunistic, meaning they are always present, but they only show up under stressful conditions. So no one can really claim that their birds are 100% germ free. :) That's why it's best to give a longer quarantine period. Some even suggest 45- 90 days.

 

Finnie has given you excellent advice :)

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Yes she has :lol: thanks keep you posted

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Yes, finnie has taught me some new things as well :D

 

But there is a story I remember every time I buy new birds, real event that happened to a breeder in my club.

They started out with pet shop finds and won a few shows with what was bred from them.

After getting into budgies more they decided to go out and buy some quality birds from a very reputable breeder.

These birds were not quarantined, and let straight in with all of their birds (including the champions)

 

This breeder lost 150 birds because of this. The exact cause is still unknown, but it was some kind of megabacteria.

 

This goes through my head every time I question quarantine

Point is, no matter how well known the breeder is, the birds can bring chaos to your aviary when precautionary steps are not taken.

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not only that but the stress of move can flair up illness birds did not have symptoms of until stressed from the actual move

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