Alfalfa light green or olive green?

[**KAZ** 0]

Is this the same bird with the one yellow/black feather in amongst the white/black feathers... ?

No JB

 

....where's the wing photos you said you would post with the updates ?

 

 

 

Alpaca...............she has scalyface.........you need to treat her

Edited March 23, 2010 by KAZ

[GenericBlue 0]

yes defenently got scaley face

and im not touching on the mutation lol

looks olive to me cinnamon

need picture of whole bird frount and back to even go near yf or not

[alpaca-boy 0]

The wings are the same as originally --- normal wing markings, but cinnamon and yellow.

Does any one know what mutation please???

OH NOOOOOO SCALEY FACE??????

WHAT IS THIS ... can someone please help me!!!

how do i treat it??

how does it happen?

is it infectious????

 

[**KAZ** 0]

The wings are the same as originally --- normal wing markings, but cinnamon and yellow.

Does any one know what mutation please???

OH NOOOOOO SCALEY FACE??????

WHAT IS THIS ... can someone please help me!!!

how do i treat it??

how does it happen?

is it infectious????

 

Use the search function or faq section..........scalyface has been covered to death on this forum

 

I mentioned the wings photo because you said you would post them.

[alpaca-boy 0]

oh sorry KAZ i dont remember, must have forgotten

 

well here are they wings

 

so whats the verdict, im going to look at scaley face on FAQs now thanks for the tip =]

 

alpaca-boy

[**KAZ** 0]

Has to be YF cinnamon mauve I think..........blue tail is a dead give away. Not grey green at all

[alpaca-boy 0]

Has to be YF cinnamon mauve I think..........blue tail is a dead give away. Not grey green at all

 

 

but dont all wild green budgies have navy blue tails???

thats what i thought

 

and just another piece of info which might help, she has purple cheek patches now??

does that mean anything??

 

and if she were to be a yf cinnamon mauve why is she predominately green

especially when i got her and she was only 8-10 weeks old that is too early for moulting and suffusion of yellow

isnt it?

[RIPbudgies 0]

Your original photos showed a bird in baby feather. As I have already said in your other post these baby feather do not show the full depth of colour. Green youngsters will always show a degree of blue in the body feather.

 

Your bird is NOT yellowface. It is a Cinnamon in either Dark Green or Olive.

 

You correct on the tail in the wild birds, they do indeed have blue tails. If she had had a black tail she would have been a Grey Green. Cheek patches are a guide also, Violet in the Light, Dark, Olive Green and Sky, Cobalt and Mauve. Grey Greens and Greys have grey ones. Some varieties are white but I will not go into that on this thread.

[**KAZ** 0]

Your original photos showed a bird in baby feather. As I have already said in your other post these baby feather do not show the full depth of colour. Green youngsters will always show a degree of blue in the body feather.

 

Your bird is NOT yellowface. It is a Cinnamon in either Dark Green or Olive.

 

You correct on the tail in the wild birds, they do indeed have blue tails. If she had had a black tail she would have been a Grey Green. Cheek patches are a guide also, Violet in the Light, Dark, Olive Green and Sky, Cobalt and Mauve. Grey Greens and Greys have grey ones. Some varieties are white but I will not go into that on this thread.

 

 

I would so totally listen to this lady

 

she knows what she is saying

[RIPbudgies 0]

Your original photos showed a bird in baby feather. As I have already said in your other post these baby feather do not show the full depth of colour. Green youngsters will always show a degree of blue in the body feather.

 

Your bird is NOT yellowface. It is a Cinnamon in either Dark Green or Olive.

 

You correct on the tail in the wild birds, they do indeed have blue tails. If she had had a black tail she would have been a Grey Green. Cheek patches are a guide also, Violet in the Light, Dark, Olive Green and Sky, Cobalt and Mauve. Grey Greens and Greys have grey ones. Some varieties are white but I will not go into that on this thread.

 

 

I would so totally listen to this lady

 

she knows what she is saying

 

 

Awww shucks.

[GenericBlue 0]

i second that

 

rip is the mutation master when it comes to yf type anything

 

 

i say olive then i knew it wasnt yf though

Your original photos showed a bird in baby feather. As I have already said in your other post these baby feather do not show the full depth of colour. Green youngsters will always show a degree of blue in the body feather.

 

Your bird is NOT yellowface. It is a Cinnamon in either Dark Green or Olive.

 

You correct on the tail in the wild birds, they do indeed have blue tails. If she had had a black tail she would have been a Grey Green. Cheek patches are a guide also, Violet in the Light, Dark, Olive Green and Sky, Cobalt and Mauve. Grey Greens and Greys have grey ones. Some varieties are white but I will not go into that on this thread.

 

 

I would so totally listen to this lady

 

she knows what she is saying

 

 

Awww shucks.

Edited March 24, 2010 by GenericBlue

[alpaca-boy 0]

Hi i was once again wondering what colour she is.

 

as she has now fully completed her moult, and i think

she is either light green or olive green i will include a couple of recent pictures.

 

what do you all think??

 

 

 

thanks in advance, A-B.

[Houman 0]

i dont know jack about genetics but thats a pretty budgie, my guess though is light green

Edited April 26, 2010 by Houman

[nubbly5 0]

Was this our "YF Cinnamon Mauve" discussion from before A-B?

 

She still looks to me to be cinnamon green but not a light green. I'd pitch for Cinnamon Dark Green based on her cheek patches. If she were olive I'd have expected darker violet cheek patches and she strikes me as not quite grey green looking enough now that she has moulted out. She still looks like she has a few baby feathers to moult out from her chest though....

 

It'd be great tp follow this story through with a test mating. If you pair her in the future would you post up the results?

Edited April 27, 2010 by nubbly5

[nubbly5 0]

Bloody ***! I argue BLACK AND BLUE that this bird is NOT a yf. GB too argued the same but noooooo RIP comes along and hey presto so long as she says no yf it's not a yf.

 

Nubbly goes away grumbling........................ :emoticon112:

[alpaca-boy 0]

Was this our "YF Cinnamon Mauve" discussion from before A-B?

 

She still looks to me to be cinnamon green but not a light green. I'd pitch for Cinnamon Dark Green based on her cheek patches. If she were olive I'd have expected darker violet cheek patches and she strikes me as not quite grey green looking enough now that she has moulted out. She still looks like she has a few baby feathers to moult out from her chest though....

 

It'd be great tp follow this story through with a test mating. If you pair her in the future would you post up the results?

 

 

Yes nubbaly this is that same discussion.

 

so a dark green, see that the thing is, i thought it was definately not d/green, i thought

it must be olive or light as it doesn't have that emerald green intensity that d/greens have??

i will try get some new pictures in good light!

 

umm definately. i will definately post a breeding journal, i am so excited to do so. it will be my first time breeding.

but i have to wait til the end of the year as they are still young, i have to wait for Alfalfas cere to go brown and crusty

that means she is ready right?

 

and then i will put in the breeding box! :emoticon112: but if i do breed her will that give us extra info on her colouring

the bird that i am pairing her with "mortimer" is a cobalt blue, y/f not sure which one i think ty2, and he is opaline, i think

as he had blue on his back before, but as you can see in the picture on page 2 of this forum he has lost it??

 

dooes anyone know why?

 

thanks alpaca boy

Edited April 27, 2010 by alpaca-boy

[**KAZ** 0]

i have to wait for Alfalfas cere to go brown and crusty

that means she is ready right?

 

Not exactly. Brown and crusty is generally considered going past breeding condition. Light to medium brown is better as it will see them through. Dark brown and crusty is the later stage when it peels away to reveal white and blue underneath which is out of breeding condition. Also wait for age of 12 months but you know that...right

[alpaca-boy 0]

yes kaz i know, i1 year, before start breeding.

 

i got alfalfa on the 12th of december so that is when i am going to start trying.

as she was atleast 8 weeks then.

so by that time she will be over a year old.

[nubbly5 0]

A-B the issue you have is that cinnamon affects the intensity of the green. I have bred many cinnamon dark greens and a few cinnamon olives and they ae quite hard to tell apart. In that respect we could all take a stab at it and it'd probably be a 50:50 chance. Breeding her will give you the dark factor results. Also to me she just isn't quite grey green enough to be an olive but then like I said, they can be a bit tricky to tell apart in the cinnamon version.

[alpaca-boy 0]

ah ha! you are right! thanks nubbaly :fingerscrossed:

 

why didnt i think of that, the cinnamon decreases the intensity of the chest feathers!

so then i dark green would look like a light green, but not quite, therefore giving the colour that alfalfa has!

 

we have solved the mystery

so i have a cobalt boy and a dark green girl, what colours could i get from this??

 

only dark green and cobalt ??

or could i get sky blue, light green, cobalt and dark green??

 

PS: i should have figured that out, as i posted a topice on a powder blue, and

people replied saying it was a sky blur and the cinnamon had diluted the colour on its chest. oh well

there you go.

 

so alfalfa is a normal dark green, with cinnamon wings

and mortimer .. well i need help on that, if anyone care too its under "opaline or not opaline?"

but i know he a cobalt, pied and split for opaline.

 

what pairs could i posssibly get?? from thes two?