Trish 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I have removed all juveniles into a temporary aviary so they are now on their own. I am now looking at who are the parents of the current two sets of babies so I can seperate all the other budgies in there from them and just leave the two sets of partnts and babies in this aviary. I will seperate hens from cocks and put in seperate cages as they all look rather amarous and I do not want them to breed anymore at all. It will also be easier this way to treat them using the quarantine guidelines in the F.A.Q. section of the forum. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you end up comingto Melbourne for a vet and need help with any of the babies let me know, I'm happy to handraise them for you so you can take the logs out of the aviary alltogether if that makes your life easier. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Well done trish!! I am so please the budgies are in good hands! Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you end up comingto Melbourne for a vet and need help with any of the babies let me know, I'm happy to handraise them for you so you can take the logs out of the aviary alltogether if that makes your life easier. Thanks MB, I'll keep it in mind, I am hoping to find someone closer than Melbourne though, fingers crossed! I also would not like these babies to spread any nasties to your birds. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted January 12, 2009 If they did come here Trish they would be inside where I don't have any other birds so no worries there. I hope you can find a closer vet! I can try and post some ivermectin to you if you like, just PMme your details :fear Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 If they did come here Trish they would be inside where I don't have any other birds so no worries there. I hope you can find a closer vet! I can try and post some ivermectin to you if you like, just PMme your details Thankyou so much you are very :fear thoughtful! Splat has kindly sent me some Ivermectin just this morning. Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 O.K. I am so hot right now it is not funny! Just caught almost the entire flock! The final tally is in! ADULT HENS 5 green opaline (one with old cut/slightly deformed cere and two toes missing) 1 skyblue opaline (with small amout of scalyface) 1 skyblue spangle (with severe scaly face and overgrown beak) 1 greyblue spangle (with severe scaly face and severely overgrown beak) 1 cobalt opaline 2 light blue spangle 1 greyblue spangle (with plucked tummy, very thin) ADULT COCKS 1 cobalt opaline 1 green opaline 1 green cinnamon spangle 1 light blue spangle JUVENILES ...2 HENS... 4 COCKS 1 grey cinnamon spangle hen 1 green opaline hen 2 grey cinnamon spangle cocks 1 green opaline cock 1 light green cinnamon cock BREEDING PAIRS (Alone now in aviary) 1 green opaline hen (with a split cere) + 1 green opaline cock= 4 babies (2 feathering up) and 2 eggs. 1 olive green cinnamon spangle (skinny) + 1 greyblue spangle cock= 4 babies Link to comment
maesie 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 3,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,386 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,580 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/11/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2013 Birthday: 20/04/1979 Share Posted January 12, 2009 :rofl: WOW!!! Have yourself a drink: Good luck on your new journey and I look forward to following the progress of their new lives. Link to comment
timbo.1 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 3,527 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 263 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,660 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/06/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 28, 2012 Birthday: 03/03/1975 Share Posted January 12, 2009 good luck Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 good luck Thanks! Do you know of any avian vets around our area who can trim beaks? Where do you get all your budgie supplies? I am only 45 mins away from you, just near Casterton. Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Wow! You've done a great job... Is your mum sitting on those 2 eggs that haven't hatched? I hope all continues to go well for you Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Wow! You've done a great job... Is your mum sitting on those 2 eggs that haven't hatched? I hope all continues to go well for you :rofl: No she isn't, I think that she tossed them out? They had a rough day yesterday in the heat that we had, it got to 40.9! The parents were o.k. as I sprinkled them with water and hung a wet sheet over part of the aviary for the wind to blow through. But the babies are in the logs and I had a look with a torch and they were panting. They are o.k. this morning and it is also a bit cooler today. My Ivermectin arrived today and I have another big task on my hands but at least it only has to be done once on all the birds and the two worst affected are in a seperate cage and will get another treatment in two weeks. I can't wait to see how it works, I'll take before and after shots. I still need to find someone to trim their beaks, they seem to only eat Millett and go through a sprig in half a day, I think I got them just in time I don't know that they were eating much at all before as they were only ever given the "Healthie Bird" seed from GO LO (like the reject shop). Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Just received the Ivermectin that was kindly sent to me. I have treated the two worst females with the help of my 10 year old daughter as I have to hold them and part the feathers to reveal the skin to paint it on. I feel so sorry for the worst one she doesn't even have and toenails for some reason? Her eye is almost shut it is so infested with scalyface. As I said earlier that seem to only able to eat Millett, once I see a little improvement in the scaly face I will get their beaks trimmed although I think I have to bring them to Melbourne. Before shots: This first one being a bit fuzzy but shows that the poor girl has no toenails. The second hen has it worse above her beak, see below: Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2009 okay now I feel sick, good on you for getting them out of a bad situation Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) okay now I feel sick, good on you for getting them out of a bad situation So sorry A.V. maybe I should have put on a warning? Its all up from here though and hopefully can put up some healthy photo's in a month or so? Edited January 14, 2009 by Trish Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 14, 2009 They look awful Trish, you really nead to trim those beaks just get a small pair if scissor trim the beak to the shape its meant to be it is really quite easy. Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 They look awful Trish, you really nead to trim those beaks just get a small pair if scissor trim the beak to the shape its meant to be it is really quite easy. I had no idea that I could do it, is their beak just like a fingernail, it doesn't hurt them? Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Yes beaks are like finger nails trim back but don't go too short, you will need to trim regulary untill the scaley face is gone. Just cut back to the size it should be close to that so thay can get. Edited January 14, 2009 by splat Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 14, 2009 awww poor girls... I feel so sorry for them... I hope things improve. I look forward to seeing the pictures when they are better do we have a :cringe: ??? Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 So I got up the courage with hubby's help and trimmed the beaks on the two worst birds. Please note the cage behind is just a temp. hospital cage and was only used for a few days. Now that the rest of my budgies are in the aviary I have free'd up a much bigger one for them. This is the worst of the two, she had an overshot bottom beak and very distorted top one I have attempted to make it as normal as possible but did not want to cut too much at once. I will reasses in a couple of days after I have watched to see if she can eat o.k. The scaly face on the other bird was much worse and I have already seen improvement on her. Before: After: Link to comment
krosp 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Member ID: 4,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 777 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,955 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 10, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Wow, you are so brave... I would be so scared cutting a beak! You're doing an amazing thing for those birds and we are all very proud of you! Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Wow, you are so brave... I would be so scared cutting a beak! You're doing an amazing thing for those birds and we are all very proud of you! I WAS scared! I had no choice though, we dont have Avian vets within 6.5 hours drive. I just did it little by little, I hope I can see them eating normal food soon as they have been living off Millett! Thanks for the encouragement, it means a lot to me Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 18, 2009 That beak looks a lot better than the one she had, poor thing. I hope her quality of life is improving and that she is eating properly now... please keep us posted on both there progress Link to comment
brez 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,721 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 185 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,155 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2009 Birthday: 10/08/1974 Share Posted January 18, 2009 trish this is an amazing task you have undertaken and its obvious to see you have a great heart . i can see why you would be having second thoughts about getting rid of them after you are puting so much effort in . makes my blood boil that people could have let those birds get that bad so good on you for taking them the satisfaction you will get from rehabilitating them will be worth much more to you than the $200 you have initially spent . good luck on your mission Link to comment
Trish 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,756 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 546 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 5, 2009 Birthday: 07/10/1976 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 trish this is an amazing task you have undertaken and its obvious to see you have a great heart . i can see why you would be having second thoughts about getting rid of them after you are puting so much effort in . makes my blood boil that people could have let those birds get that bad so good on you for taking them the satisfaction you will get from rehabilitating them will be worth much more to you than the $200 you have initially spent . good luck on your mission NEWSFLASH! I just went out to check the girls and I caught the worst one (pictured above after beak trim) eating normal seed, not just Millett! She is on the mend! I will take some more pics later of the other hen as she had scaly feace the worst and since the Ivermectin I have aleady noticed an improvement. Thanks so much Jimmy and Brez for the comments. Brez they are beautiful birds and are really growing on me, I love to see them tucking into veggies knowing full well that they never had the chance to before. My kids have been involved every step of the way and I am happy for them to learn the values of a living creature. Once their quarantine is over I was thinking of getting the kids involved further and helping them create their own Aviary from start to finish and then for them to run it. Chopping up veggies for them and building the Aviary from the beginning, this is the whole reason I relocated from Melbourne to Country Victoria, to allow the kids to experience such things. Brez, from the moment I got these little guys home I forgot about the money spent of them because they appreciate everything I do for them and that enjoyment is worth every cent! Link to comment
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