The Black Budgie

[**KAZ** 0]

We were talking about the possibility of producing a black budgie before. I said how my ex father in law had produced a black budgie chick out of a nest when he was in his teens and that was fifty years ago.

I have just been talking with him about the budgie.

He says others in the Budgerigar Club saw the budgie and they were all watching its development from the chick in the nest to fledging and flying around. It was seen and documented in an article in an old budgerigar club magazine here in Western Australia at the time.

Chick reached the age of 6 months and died after a thunder and lightening storm late one night. It was the only bird that died during the storm.

As a chick it began to feather up dark. Upon fledging it was jet black with the look of a raven...jet black glossy feathers with no other colours involved.

Parents were a blue and white pied mother ...seems like it was a recessive pied by the description. Father was a green normal.

In that nest was five eggs of which three hatched. Other siblings was a dark blue normal and a green like the Dad.

 

So, there you go.

Edited July 2, 2008 by KAZ

[Norm 0]

I read where those ones in The Netherlands often bred Recessive Pieds, Recessive Pied does strange things to feathers, so something might come out of them one day…I don’t breed them much maybe I should.

[**KAZ** 0]

Interestingly this black budgie came out of a nest that if we were to discuss possible outcomes of those parents...a black budgie wouyld be the last thing we would think of. I dont think you can plan to breed things like this...it seems to be a freak of nature.

[Angelic Vampyre 0]

So there is hope that we many stumble across one.... I do like the really dark grey ones that look black but then again I have started to fall in love with the dirty opalines and greys at the moment....

[macka 0]

When you think of the amount of budgie,that are breed.it must of been a 1 in a trillion,or it would of

showed up again.Why did'nt they keep it & have it stuffed for all to see,would of been worth,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[**Liv** 0]

Would it be a kind of anti-albino??? Rather than no colour, too much colour???

[Norm 0]

It would have been a Mutation & they don’t happen along very often, the more birds bred the more chances I think, but it really isn’t something that you can plan for. Then if it ends up dieing it would break your heart.

[melbournebudgies 0]

I think that would be a bird that I would keep in the house as an indoor bird, I would be too scared to have it out in the aviary. Not ust in case something happened but I would worry about someone stealing it.

[Norm 0]

I think that would be a bird that I would keep in the house as an indoor bird, I would be too scared to have it out in the aviary. Not ust in case something happened but I would worry about someone stealing it.

Yes I would be looking after it real carefully too.

 

Often new Mutations are more delicate too I’ve read.

[melbournebudgies 0]

Interestingly I have been reading up about black genes in other bird species such as chooks and a common theme there is that sometime the new mutations can be a partially deleterious gene resulting in decreased immunity and making them susceptible to disease as a result.

[Elly 0]

thanks for sharing Kaz, very interesting.

[Neat 0]

Wish he took a picture.. It would have been a lovely suprise in the nest

[**KAZ** 0]

When you think of the amount of budgie,that are breed.it must of been a 1 in a trillion,or it would of

showed up again.Why did'nt they keep it & have it stuffed for all to see,would of been worth,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

50 years ago and a kid....I am sure he wouldnt have thought it was that important or that rare. The budgie club he was in was interested in it but they still treated it like a wait and see how it turns out kind of thing. No excitement there. Would be different now if one came out in a nest.

[Neat 0]

That's no excuse ....... LMAO ...... He needs to go back into time to get a camera and take the Picture

 

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Next time I will rethink before i type lol

[Norm 0]

Would it be a kind of anti-albino??? Rather than no colour, too much colour???

It certainly would Liv, Ino is lack of Melanin & Black [as in a crow] would be total Melanin.

That's no excuse ....... LMAO ...... He needs to go back into time to get a camera and take the Picture ....................................Next time I will rethink before i type lol

Don't go doing that Neat…we might not even recognise it's you…Nasty Norm…forget I said that I wasn't thinking. :devil: Edited July 2, 2008 by Norm

[Guest throwback]

When you think of the amount of budgie,that are breed.it must of been a 1 in a trillion,or it would of

showed up again.Why did'nt they keep it & have it stuffed for all to see,would of been worth,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

50 years ago and a kid....I am sure he wouldnt have thought it was that important or that rare. The budgie club he was in was interested in it but they still treated it like a wait and see how it turns out kind of thing. No excitement there. Would be different now if one came out in a nest.

 

 

No! the attitude from the clubs is still the same. It's more or less what they told me about my little throwback! Wait and see. But at least I have taken pictures documented it.

 

I think there of the opinion that one bird doesn't make a new mutation!

 

( Just doing a little bit more documenting! )

Edited July 2, 2008 by throwback

[**Liv** 0]

No! the attitude from the clubs is still the same. It's more or less what they told me about my little throwback! Wait and see. But at least I have taken pictures documented it.

 

They are probably just jealous and dont want to admit you have something special, so you will sell it to one of them cheap.

[Ikon 0]

I personally would not advertise the fact I had a new variety. Only to a select few trusted people that will help in establishing the variety.

[Norm 0]

Humans being what they are sadly I think I would agree with Ikon.

If you want to increase the Mutation you could mate it back to the opposite sex parent & also mate it so a couple of unrelated birds then mate the half brothers & Sisters back to it & each other, that would increase the chances of increasing numbers.

[Neat 0]

Yeah your right Norm.....

TB ! I am sooo glad you posted that picture again .. ( which by the way is getting more pretty each time i see it )

[Guest throwback]

Humans being what they are sadly I think I would agree with Ikon.

If you want to increase the Mutation you could mate it back to the opposite sex parent & also mate it so a couple of unrelated birds then mate the half brothers & Sisters back to it & each other, that would increase the chances of increasing numbers.

 

A long long way to go.

Anything could happen, the bird could die or one of the parents (which the hen is still breeding )could die. It might not breed. I hope if it does it's a dominate trait and not a recessive one.

Your right Norm! pairing it back to the cock. Than to half brothers and sisters that I already have.

Should produce more. Also keeping good records of everything. Will be a must!

But I'm more excited about some of the other show budgie babies that I have produced at the moment.

It's good fun!!

[*Nerwen* 0]

first time i have seen that picture throwback, thanks for sharing. makes me remember hommers birds that he posted a long time back (as hommer hasn't been here for ever either) his birds had a few black lines in the chest feathers, nothing like this bird (who looks stunning) and we all here thought it might have been stress marks from what i remember in the thread.

[Guest throwback]

first time i have seen that picture throwback, thanks for sharing. makes me remember hommers birds that he posted a long time back (as hommer hasn't been here for ever either) his birds had a few black lines in the chest feathers, nothing like this bird (who looks stunning) and we all here thought it might have been stress marks from what i remember in the thread.

 

I'm going to break out in stress marks if I keep breeding these different budgies!!

 

A new one that has come through with a very black head and wings!

 

When I picked throwback for a name I wasn't kidding!!

 

[Norm 0]

Good stuff Throwback…keep em coming…something said in jest may have more power than you think. But maybe they are Throwforward, not backward?

But those extra bars like in The Netherlands Blacks really feels to me that it is a Throwback, seems like a much more camouflaged look that might have been an advantage earlier on in evolution…some of those rarer Parrots the Grass Parrots etc have stripes all over for camouflage, as they live on the ground

Edited July 11, 2008 by Norm

[Sailorwolf 0]

Awesome throwback. Keep breeding those dudes.